Scanning Power Levels an unrealistic ability

[JediKaren]

In the community of paranormal branches, there is a group of energy users who believe they scan current energy levels of a person and potential maxim energy levels. This ability is not recognized or taught on well know psionics sites, yet the skill is being advertised by some psionics. It is my belief and the belief of several other experienced psions that scanning power level is not a reliable or practical skill that should be taken seriously or should be taken truthfully. This article will define who practice this skill, what scanning powers level is, the method, the level system, and four reasons to back up this claim.

With research one can trace scanning, or more commonly known as sensing, power levels to the subject of ki. Ki is a type of energy, some say the same as psi and others argue a different energy. The ki branch of paranormal differs from psi with different abilities and different theories. After reading up on the ki, beliefs about psi and ki differ in that ki users believe that everyone has a ki in them and psions do not believe there is a psi in them, but that psi exists everywhere but the scource is unknown, ki on the other hand comes from all living things. Some ki abilities do not transfer over well or at all when dealing with psi, like scanning energy levels. Further research will show scanning power levels come from the tv animated show Dragon Ball Z (DBZ). This cartoon shows the characters using skills that ki teaches. Power levels have also been made a popular idea through role playing games so characters have a know level of strength and listed abilities.

The general common way scanning power levels work is one person scans another for a power level. According to several ki sites, the scanner visualizes their ki in their body and images the ki touching the ki of the person being scanned. Of the sites that I visited, all of them agreed that the scanner should feel a thud in their stomach. Based on the strength of the thud and comparing the feeling to a description that can be found on the sites, they can determine the power level of the person being scanned. There seem to be two types of descriptions of the levels. One type of description is based on words like very low, low, medium, high, and very high. The second type of description is based on a number scale ranging from 1,000 to 50,000. Each site has a different highest level with no explanation of how the scale was created, found, or what source it was copied from.

One of the four problems with scanning energy levels of an individual is there is no logical, scientific way to test the results. Psionic skills such as precognition, telepathy, empathy, telekinesis, and remote viewing can all be tested. Each of the mentioned skills can be tested for did wanted results happen in the desired way or not. For an example, take remote viewing and its goal for the viewer to describe an unseen and unknown target. The viewer either described the target accurately or not. In telepathic games like numbers, or guess the fruit, the receiver either receives the right number/ fruit or fails. When experimenting by the means of telekinesis, the spinning psi wheel or rolling pencil can be video taped and measured to prove movement. Even when scanning personalities, it is easy to tell if the scanner is making up the information as long as the scanner did not previously know the subject. With scanning power levels there is no clear method to see if the result is valid or not.

Now take the power level system. The numbers are based on a cartoon show or a game. Note how both sources are fictional and where made up. What would keep a site manager from deciding he or she did not like the numbering system of one site and completely changed it? This could leave a new comer very confused when they go to other sites and see a different system. Each role playing game has different levels. There seems a lack of consistency and a lack of standards. Take a look at the “low and high” type of descriptions. There is no definition for what “high” or “low” levels mean either, giving a false and implied meaning.

The third reason why scanning energy levels is not a reliable skill is because the nature of energy and how it effects humans. When a person starts feeling and using energy, their ability to feel and control energy is naturally low and limited for a time until they practice more. Many psions experience off days or periods of lack of control due to emotions, sickness, overtraining, drugs, or stress. All these factors could lead to a low power rating. These factors show that personal energy and ability is unstable, making a trustworthy, long term reading impossible. Also, a power level can make a person believe they have a predetermined energy level, which is not true. Some psions, or any energy user, will loose interest in practicing and never reach full potential.

Finally, the last issue with scanning power levels is the problem with the scanner. If the scanner was scanning their best friend, Joe, and got a low level and did not want to hurt Joe, they would be tempted to raise the score. Now, Joe could ask other scanners for their readings, but he will be confused when he gets different readings and may believe the first scanner, if the score is higher. Another scanner may scan Joe who they despise and purposely give a lower than reality reading. Joe may not notice the scanner’s feelings towards him and believe the scanner. There is also the experience of the scanner. If the scanner is new to using energy and scanning, they could be giving a bad reading. The scanner could also have an off day and that could affect the reading, making it useless. In other words, it is hard to trust any one scan and different scans merely indicate there were one or more faulty scans.


[you]How to Debate This[/you]

1. Do you agree with the idea that scanning power levels is not a real ability? yes or no?

2. Why? Come up with three reasons why. May may use the reasons stated in the argument above to support your claim, but you may not just use that. You must come up with ideas of your own.

3. You may argue other people's points, but you must keep to the topic.

4. Stating your opinion without back up support is not enough.

[Brilenus]

Very nice post. I agree for the most part.

You can scan for power levels in another person, but it is very unreliable. They could be having a better/worse day than normal, and there is no solid system for ranking strength.

The only real way to do it would to to compare with other people, and that is not even a good way of doing it, as the other people would also have fluctuating levels of strength.

[leethal]

I don't know anything about this skill, as I can't scan, nor can i do anything else, for that matter. All i can do is TK.

However, I would think you are correct in the level gauging theory. I think it would all be subjective. It could happen to have a thud in the stomach accoording to the other's level, but how would you "weight" that thud? Aren't there days when you feel stronger, or weaker? aren't there times when you felt the thud to be stronger, but it wasn't? or vice versa, some day when you're stronger and you think the thud was weaker than it actually was? To say compare with other people is always a mistake, unless you have like a 1000 people sample, all out of the blue, so that they aren't all psions/Kions (lol). If you got that, you'd probably get to the end of the day not knowing the average energy level.

But still, it's a start. Maybe it could be perfected.

[stolide]

(note: not opinion yet) One way to get a less inaccurate reading would be to take it at different times different days for a few weeks for two people. Compare and and average them. Then you could figure out the average percent difference between them)

It is a real ability. I use it all the time on my constructs and people. It tells me how much energy is in them (I tell them to gather energy into themselves for a few moments then sense the energy) How ever, it is a higly subjective skill that is full of pitfalls for the inexperianced scanner. Power levels fluctuate within a few seconds, and you have to compare to someone else whos energy also changes. There is really no use for this other than sensing the strength of constructs and such.

I generally won't do this for someone even if they ask because of the potential impact on their performance. If I do happen to scan someone I usually keep the results to myself.

BTW good artical, you should put it on the main site.

[psyked]

Yeh I dont think its a reliable skill at all because people can just meditate, deep breath or something to gather more energy... and i think people experienced enough can control how much energy is flowing in them..

ummm i dont know what else to say i was going to say something about how emotions effects the energy level but thats done already...

Oh I heard the food you eat also affects your energy...for example Meat has energy with lower frequency and vegetable and all the green stuff has energy with higher energy frequency (which is better for your body offcourse)

[Mr.Experiment]

I believe it is possible to rank the current out-put of someones energy.
Though Power and Energy are two different things. Its not about how much energy you have, but how you use it.

BUT, if you use the skill to rank someones output,, and use telepathy to see someones skills, etc and use other skills plus scanning you can put a possible rank on someone for that moment in time, 2 seconds later can be a whole different story, unless there really bad are hiding them selves.

~Jano

[The Adfeng]

I believe that you could "rate" them on how stronger/weaker they are to you and others. I don't think this is reliable though.

If there were such things as power levels, I don't know how you would rate them. Personally, if i scanned myself, I would probably lie to bring up my score, to seem surperior. I would also do that with my friends. If everyone was rated just on power levels, someone's level could be real high, but they may not know about psionics or anything. But, someone's may be real low, and it looks like they don't know about psionics, but they know a lot about them.

[Mr.Experiment]

Thats why I usually rank my self one scale lower then id rank.

Such as, im pretty realistic too.
S in mine, basiclly Super is an almost "Godlyish" level, and the difference bettween S and A is so great its hard to comprehend. If I were to rank my self an S id have to be extremely full of my self, even an A would be quite egotisical.

Though its my belief every human bieng has a potential point of a B. Even for a brief second, I think any person can manage to hit B. A is a little different and would take lots and lots of training among "natural talent" though this scale ranks on every aspect of a person, natural talent would only help if you had natural talent in about everything.
I dont think a Human Bieng can even become S, if so I wouldnt even consider you a Human if you did manage to become an S-Ranked person on my scale.

~Jano


If I were to exert everything to the Max Point in which I do not die, maybe shorten my life span but to the point where ill still live It could be possible to reach A for me, but I just cant one day just randomly do it, id need a great resolve to do that.

[The Adfeng]

kagexcore said:

Thats why I usually rank my self one scale lower then id rank.

Such as, im pretty realistic too.
S in mine, basiclly Super is an almost "Godlyish" level, and the difference bettween S and A is so great its hard to comprehend. If I were to rank my self an S id have to be extremely full of my self, even an A would be quite egotisical.

Though its my belief every human bieng has a potential point of a B. Even for a brief second, I think any person can manage to hit B. A is a little different and would take lots and lots of training among "natural talent" though this scale ranks on every aspect of a person, natural talent would only help if you had natural talent in about everything.
I dont think a Human Bieng can even become S, if so I wouldnt even consider you a Human if you did manage to become an S-Ranked person on my scale.

~Jano


If I were to exert everything to the Max Point in which I do not die, maybe shorten my life span but to the point where ill still live It could be possible to reach A for me, but I just cant one day just randomly do it, id need a great resolve to do that.

Ah, I see what you're saying. You're ranking us in different scales like from SABCD and so on. I guess that's kind of what I would do if I were to rank them. I don't think that I'll be able to get S, but you never know. But I don't think people should rate each other depending on their power level, even if there was one.

[Leon]

All I could say is that I do believe in it. I don't however think you can put a number on it. I think the only way to rank it, is by judging the strength of the nudge, or pulse you get from them.

For instance, if a person has a low pulsating energy, then they are weaker. If they have a higher pulsating energy, then they're much stronger. You could not put a number on it, because to do that, there would have to be a method that the entire psionic/kinetic community agrees upon...and let's face it...that'll be a while.

[rasputin]

First off, i believe energy or power levels, and their types can be measured, and i believe that because i can. However i think "Rating" some one or something's energy level will be difficult because there is no standard unit of measurement know to every one.

One might compare two people's energy levels but informing another person about that will be very tricky and highly inaccurate.

Besides, energy level's can alter very much. I personally keep a "low profile" energy level unless need be. Higher energy level seems to attact unwanted telepathic/empathic input towards me, thereby disturbing me. Whenever i go to higher energy levels i ground after finishing my practice and return to normal energy level.

Yet another reason which renders readings of energy, or power levels is use of shields.
A good, cleverly engineered shield can easily return a false reading. Shields such as mirroring shields or shields that buffer up energy or shields that are one way or those that block energy can easily boogle a scanner.

so all in all, measuring is not very practicle in sense of rating or grading. However it is useful if used for judgeing the energies of a person, say a person on whom you are performing healing, in which case balancing different types of energies is reqired.

[fehoru]

I really don't believe the ability can "leveled" or "rated"

you can tell telepathically if the person you are scanning feels comfortable with their abilities, and compare their skill to that of someone else, and you can certainly tell if they are sick, or exhausted, burnt-out or too short on actual energy, and make another comparison, you can also tell telepathically if they are in a state of mind that will be productive for psi, the problem is the numbers and what they are comparing.

I mean if 0 = the psychic ability of a ham sandwich, and 100(or 100000000 or whatever) is the most powerful psychic ever in existance,
the actual results you get will still completely differ person to person, because not everyone is effected the same by exhaustion or sickness, not everyone has the same amount of energy in them and not everyone needs the same amount of energy to perform the same tasks.

Without a doubt some people do their best in certain mental states where others do their worst... so - there isn't anything to compare unless you catagorize people specifically, and even then there is just too much information to compare for the ability to be useful.


What do you use this ability for?

* To compare how good you are doing with your psychic abilities.
You can tell by attempting to use psychic abilities (I find I usually know before I even try)

* To Fight
You won't have time if you need to defend yourself.
Fighting for fun is neither supported by this forum, nor wise.



It's not that it's impossible, but rather that it's going to take a lot of time and research to make it accurate enough, but no amount of research is going to make it truly practical.

[chakraflow]

Wow Nice Post, the longest iv'e ever seen. Well I think that you can measure someone on psionic energy. Not by how much they currently possess, because that differs in people, for example, someone that has trained years could have less energy then someone who has trained for a day. I believe that you can scan someone on how much, and how well they use it. how i do it, i tend to see more condensed useable energy, like its on fire. And when i scan someone who is not been training long, its kind of a blah energy that hasnt been used or streetched out enough. its kinda like muscle training, te first time you start, you see major progress, but as you keep going, youre progress developes over longer periods of time, but you see much better skill and results.

[levinthross]

has anyone consider it as a weird form of aura sight

[Bolthame]

It sounds like someone's excuse to shout "OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND" etc..

Scanning for strength and amount of a person's psi energy, that's beleiveable. But power levels sounds almost fluffy. I don't think psi could be segmented into levels at all assuming we are talking about levels in the traditional sense here. I mean, you can't have like level 2 telekinesis, you can spin psi-wheels and move pencils or level 3 telepathy, you can read the thoughts of those within 10 feet of you or something like that. Everyone has their own level of ability, which increases or decreases with their training or lack thereof, I don't think psi could be segmented like that.