Zangetsu
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Post by Zangetsu on Oct 25, 2007 17:54:32 GMT -5
In my opinion guns are bad, but swords and things like that are good. First off anyone can use a gun, just point and click. Swords or knives on the other hand need lots of training and not just anyone can pick them up, they're too heavy for like 5 year olds to play with. And they store easily and take up smaller amounts of space. As a bonus swords need no ammo just repairing.
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Post by The Adfeng on Oct 25, 2007 18:00:14 GMT -5
This is really hard to decide, because swords can used for defensive and offensive, but as you said, they may be harder for someone littler to use, in case we had a all out war with everyone. Guns on the other hand, are faster, and if you had enough money, you could buy a lot of ammo, and if we did have a war, and you could have a semi-automatic gun, you could shoot for a while without being hit with a sword.
That brings me to another point about why guns are better. If the other person has a sword, you can shoot them from far away. They accually have to be in a striking range, which is very short, but with a gun you can be a pretty far distance away, and still be able to hurt them. Then again, there is one more thing.
If it was possible, I would love to have a gun, and, a sword. That way if I had to go into melee combat, and there was really no room to shoot a gun, I would pull that out. Swords arn't bad for anything, but in a big area, or in a place where there could be anyone, you could have fast reaction time and get them before they get you, but with guns all you have to worry about is people behind you.
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Post by Brilenus on Oct 25, 2007 19:45:39 GMT -5
I feel the any melee weapon is far better than a gun. People have lost the feeling of what fighting means... Anyone can just point a piece of metal/plastic, and with a twitch, they can kill anyone. They don't have to be up close, actually in the middle of a fight.
What we need to do is get rid of guns. Wars would stop or be reduced a great deal, and people would tend to have more problems with killing someone else. With a gun, you shoot someone and you just get a little hole and a lot of blood. That makes it seem not that bad. With a sword/axe you end up with big mangled messes, or missing limbs. If you use a mace, you get a bloody pulp. Either way, you get something that can severely damage your mental stability.
Anyone can go shoot people, but it takes someone of a certain mental strength to be able to go up to someone in person and use a melee weapon on them. Mental strength or insanity.
Then again, this is just how I feel, not how anything will ever work.
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Post by zedd on Oct 25, 2007 20:53:54 GMT -5
I prefer swords to guns, but for practicality in war swords just don't hold up against guns. I do agree with Brilenus if there were no guns war would be drastically reduced.
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Post by Leon on Oct 25, 2007 21:02:22 GMT -5
I prefer swords. Honestly, people have forgotten what it means to fight. Even the military. All they have to do is turn their heads and push a button, then off goes a missle. They can then even say "I didn't just do that." Also with a gun, a person can look away and "spasm" and kill a person, then deny it by saying, "I didn't just do that."
However, with a sword or any other melee item, the person who is doing the killing, has to look the the others eyes, and watch them as they die. Using melee weapons to fight, would make people think before they started another war, or fight. Swords all the way.
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Post by legatosama312 on Oct 25, 2007 22:34:48 GMT -5
I can't decide. I would actually use them both in a twisted way *thinks of outfit with slots for 2 glocks, 1 magnum, 2 twin viper sets, and 2 katana's on his back* Ah the memories XD
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Post by leethal on Oct 26, 2007 6:25:59 GMT -5
I learned something i can use here. I learned in Man-Machine interface class. It states that, in a program, to undo something must be at top, as hard as it is to do it. Killing or hurting someone with a sword, although easy if the other is unarmed, is harder than with a gun. You can't undo what you do with a gun as easily as you can with a sword.
anyway, if you're basing yourself on the efficiency of the weapon, i think we all aggree guns are way more effective than swords. You can shoot people from all distances, as you can only hit people at twice the arm's reach with a sword.
But if you're taking the nobility path, it's also no-contest. Swords are much nobler weapons.
But all in all, I just like swords for the discipline. I own a bokken, a wakizashi and a sword/katana (it's kind of weird). i practice with my bokken a bit every day. I don't mean to ever hurt anyone with it. I mean to learn the discipline of the sword. I think that's what swords are for. For you to have the mental strenght of the steel you carry with you.
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Post by neopsychic on Oct 26, 2007 18:57:29 GMT -5
I feel the any melee weapon is far better than a gun. People have lost the feeling of what fighting means... Anyone can just point a piece of metal/plastic, and with a twitch, they can kill anyone. They don't have to be up close, actually in the middle of a fight. What we need to do is get rid of guns. Wars would stop or be reduced a great deal, and people would tend to have more problems with killing someone else. With a gun, you shoot someone and you just get a little hole and a lot of blood. That makes it seem not that bad. With a sword/axe you end up with big mangled messes, or missing limbs. If you use a mace, you get a bloody pulp. Either way, you get something that can severely damage your mental stability. Anyone can go shoot people, but it takes someone of a certain mental strength to be able to go up to someone in person and use a melee weapon on them. Mental strength or insanity. Then again, this is just how I feel, not how anything will ever work. I agree with a ban on guns. With a gun an old lady that can't even walk could have enough strength to pull a trigger. Same goes with a 5 year old. No guns means close to 0% chance of accidental death from weapons. I figure that you can fight off a 20 year old man if he's small, but you can't fight off a 10 year old with a gun. Simple as that. The gun is great because it gives power to those who don't have any, unfortunately not all those people need weapons. Other then that, gun beats sword in just about all categories, though the person with better speed and training would win in a close range fight. If you take karate or any other martial arts, there is a chance that you could beat a guy with a sword unarmed.
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Post by Dan on Oct 26, 2007 19:46:38 GMT -5
Swords all the way! it's an art, that needs to be teached. I mean, no one gives gun lessons, right?
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Post by legatosama312 on Oct 27, 2007 11:46:11 GMT -5
actually...
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Zangetsu
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Post by Zangetsu on Oct 27, 2007 12:48:53 GMT -5
Gun lessons do exist, but one ranged wepon i would use is either a bow or crossbow.
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Post by legatosama312 on Oct 27, 2007 17:32:07 GMT -5
I like most weapons but some just dissapoint me. such as the...can't remember right now there aren't many weapons that dissapoint me XD
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Post by The Adfeng on Oct 27, 2007 20:15:49 GMT -5
I agree with a ban on guns. With a gun an old lady that can't even walk could have enough strength to pull a trigger. Same goes with a 5 year old. No guns means close to 0% chance of accidental death from weapons. I figure that you can fight off a 20 year old man if he's small, but you can't fight off a 10 year old with a gun. Simple as that. The gun is great because it gives power to those who don't have any, unfortunately not all those people need weapons. Other then that, gun beats sword in just about all categories, though the person with better speed and training would win in a close range fight. If you take karate or any other martial arts, there is a chance that you could beat a guy with a sword unarmed. But we have the freedom to bear arms, in case there is anyone out there that tries to harm us. But then again, it could be with a gun, but I see guns as self defense or a hunting weapon.
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Post by red29216 on Oct 27, 2007 21:18:37 GMT -5
Swords are more dangerous, and require much more skill to use obviously. They are also a lot more dangerous in close combat; putting a gun to someones head is a huge mistake, as someone with a certain amount of agility and get out of the way and control the gun. It's almost impossible to avoid a sword in close contact unless you have enough sword to block it.
Guns are more practical. A much much better weapon.
I think to say eliminating guns will stop war is foolish however. There will always be war, there is no stopping it. It is as much part of human nature as anything else. Guns and swords are just different scales of destruction.
I agree that it is good to train with a sword. Sword skills are skills that can be applied to many other common items - they are very practical to know. But guns are the new weapons. True, anyone can fire a gun, but anyone can take a knife and stab someone in the back as well.
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Post by Zangetsu on Oct 28, 2007 11:38:54 GMT -5
if the person has a poor stance with a sword, you would knock them down easy, while stance makes absolutly no difference in gun fights.
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