Weather Challenge

[Barriss Offee]

As many of you who've read the shoutbox over the past few days know, JediKaren and a few other people and I have been having a sort of debate about whether it is possible to control weather (i.e. make it snow) using psi. JK said it was "unlikely", but my theory is, how do you know it's unlikely unless other psions have tried it?

Since I have seen no threads anywhere on PsiWorld that have to do with weather control, I have decided to make one. Here's my challenge: anyone who reads this post and knows how to program, make the most powerful construct you can and program it to make it snow, rain, cold, hot, or anything else that has to do with weather. Post your results. Is it possible to control the weather with psi?

I'll give everyone who reads this an entire month to see if it's possible or not. Then, on February 29 (that's the last day of Feb.) I'm going to post the percentage of people who tried it and were successful.

Have fun with this little contest!

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PARTICIPANTS:

Mat Ethers
Status: Experiment not yet posted

MBSD
Status: Experiment not yet posteded

[Fearn]

I have a few points to make...
1) I've seen multiple accounts of this happening. They were all fluff 9or at least I thought they were).
2) Why isn't this in the experiment board. Do you have a reason, or did it end up in the wrong place? I'll gladly move it for you.

[Barriss Offee]

Fearn, I'm not asking you to believe right away, just by reading my post. All I'm asking is for you, and anyone else who is interested, to form a construct and program it to do what I specified above. You'll have to find out for yourself if it's possible... Please?

P.S. Well, I put it here because I didn't even know the experiment board existed until a few minutes ago, when I read your post. Feel free to move it there.

[Fearn]

All right. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt. And I'll move it of course.

[Mat Ethers]

I'm guessing that people have to post what weather patterns they are creating before they actually happen? Okay here's how I would do the experiment.

Here is the COMPLETE experiment.

Using Psychokinesis to Modify the Weather

Aim: To determine whether or not it is possible to modify weather patterns using psi/psychokinesis.

Hypothesis: I believe that it is possible to change weather patterns using kinesis, however kinesis on such a scale would require a higher level of skill than anybody on this site, or possibly anybody, has.

Materials: access to weather predictions, an atmosphere, a working brain.

Method:

1) Post 2 days before your attempt at modifying weather patterns. This post should include the current forecast for the day you are conducting your experiment, also it should contain the weather that you are going to attempt to create on the day (please not that this should be noticeably different from the predicted forecast). You can attempt to change anything you like, be it cloud-cover, temperature or otherwise.

2) The day before your attempt, modify your post to include the predictions for the next day.

3) On the day of your experiment, create your construct and attempt to change the weather. Modify your post with the actual statistics of that days weather.

4) modify your post with the next days actual weather statistics, so it can be discerned if the previous days event's weren't just freak weather patterns.

5) (Not mandatory but it would help) Repeat. this will add extra credibility, an it is a key step in every experiment.

6) Record any other things you feel you need to.

Results:

The results of the experiment will be analysed QUALITATIVELY by a panel of at least 10 people. (If you would like to be included in this panel contact either myself or Edward via PM, so as to keep the already cluttered experiment thread clean).

Conclusion: (Will be posted when experiment is complete)



EDIT: Formatted experiment.

[Able]

I don't know if this counts, but I ocasionally stop a rains. I hate getting wet...

It does require a great amount of energy though...

[red29216]

I would not regard this as an experiment in any way. No quantitative measurements are being taken, and I believe that is a must for this type of experiment.

And when you go to put a topic in the experiment board, please make sure you include the procedure, a title, a purpose.. all that fun stuff. Use the scientific method. And please, if it's even close to being fluff it better be extremely structured and well done.

So can someone move this to another board?

[The Adfeng]

Well, this could go under the experiment board. It is an experiment. I might be trying if I ever get some time to. But, your idea is a pretty good one. What if on small scale it worked? If we got everyone working on it, we could do it on a larger scale. But, of course, I don't know if anyone would be willing to or if it would work.

[Barriss Offee]

I like your idea, Timelord. Okay, anyone who wants to participate should use that method. As soon as I get the time I'm going to try and create snow again, or maybe ice ... enough to get the day off from school. I'll be sure to follow that same method too before I start the experiment.

P.S. This post used to be on the "Other" board, red, but Fearn decided to move it here. So if you want it moved back, feel free to ask him.

[Mat Ethers]

red29216 said:

I would not regard this as an experiment in any way. No quantitative measurements are being taken, and I believe that is a must for this type of experiment.

And when you go to put a topic in the experiment board, please make sure you include the procedure, a title, a purpose.. all that fun stuff. Use the scientific method. And please, if it's even close to being fluff it better be extremely structured and well done.

So can someone move this to another board?

Is it even possible to make an experiment like this have quantitative results? Weather is after-all a rather unquantifiable thing.

Experiments can also be recorded qualitatively too. You just have to have more observers to state there opinion to get a more accurate and lesser biased result.

I believe the purpose (however unclearly) was stated. Is a title really necessary that's the sort of thing you lose a mark for in science, but honestly it's just a nicety.

However I do agree with you on the method. Other than the fact I already posted one.

I don't want to start arguments, but they key point (the method) has been posted, however I am about to go back and edit my post to include all those fiddly little niceties, in order to avoid further argument.

But people I think we should get back on topic, after all this is an experiment board not a discussion board.

And since when has modifying weather patterns been fluff? I have not even heard the word atmokinesis uttered once in this thread and as of yet have not seen anything "fluffy". This is after all an experiment board, part of the purpose of it is to determine the lines between "fluff" and... well not fluff.

So I am guessing any "fluffy" predictions would be the individuals Hypothesis.


Note: Can a mod or admin clean this board up and delete all the posts that aren't actually a part of the experiment. It would be greatly appreciated.


P.S: Sorry Edward I seem to have commandeered your experiment. If you want me to change part of the method or anything just PM me or something.

[Barriss Offee]

Timelord, I have no reason to be angry with you for "commandeering my experiment". After all, you seem to be my greatest supporter...

P.S. The modified method looks good. We can work with that.

P.P.S. Nobody has specifically come out and said they will participate yet! Fearn, Timelord, Able, MBSD, will any of you join?

[Mat Ethers]

I'll join. xD. That completely slipped my mind...

[psidan]

Anyone who thinks they can control nature is an idiot to put it bluntly. Nature may let you believe your doing things and actually controlling it but nature is an unknown force which is way more powerful then anyone realizes.

~Anuboern

[red29216]

Ok, I like the new format.

Personally I think its going to put to rest any claims of this ability, and any people that disagree can either prove it themselves with figures, or say that they don't want to effect weather patterns around the world and kill a bunch of people via drought. I've heard that quite often.

[Mat Ethers]

psidan said:

Anyone who thinks they can control nature is an idiot to put it bluntly. Nature may let you believe your doing things and actually controlling it but nature is an unknown force which is way more powerful then anyone realizes.

~Anuboern

This is an experiment board NOT a debate board so if we could please get back on topic. that goes for everyone. Even me xD.