I'm no good at this...

[darknight]

I've been trying AP for a while now with no success... I can't seem to find a technique that really works for me...

Any help would be much appreciated Just post up some new methods for me to try. And remember that I'm a newb and no good at these overcomplicated methods.

Thanks.

[superjohn]

Well, this is how I do it.

I have the room almost completly dark. I lay down and try NOT to go to sleep. If you try as your going to bed, you'll be too distracted to focus on projecting. So anyway, laydown, close your eyes and take about 20-50 deap breaths, try not to count them in your head too loud. After you complete this, no more moving, if you do start again. After that take normal breaths, about 100 or so. Then from here, try to move your 'astral' hands not your real ones, Start by just wiggleing your fingers, al the way up til your arms work (til you feel them working) then from there, add an element of the rope method. Use your hands to pull on a 'rope' right above your 4th chakara, which is basicly opposite of your solar plexus. Try to imagine that the rope actually came out of you. Pull on the rope, like you would with tug-o- war, then you should start to feel wierd stuff, tingles and rapid heart beat. Your heartbeat should get more intense, keep at it, and just before you feel like stopping, because the sensation will be intense your first few times, you should project. Mor than likly you wont be able to see your first time, you'll be an 'infant' if you will, so you'll need to learn how to do everything again. Dont get too excited when you leave you body, you'll just stop APing and go back. Stay calm. Also, your 1st few times wont be very long.

Hope that works.

[darknight]

Well, I tried it... my heart sped up like crazy and I felt really weird... but I didn't actually separate. Is this good for a first time?

[rainman]

ok there is no "spacific" way to do this as long as the "separation" is your goal ...like evry thing else this will take practis ...lots of it...this is not something i usaly do but i have accomplished it...but i took about 20-25 tryes befor i got it (all on diffrent days)

[superjohn]

Well, like rainman said, there is no specific way to do it. That's how I acomplish it. It toom me about 4 months before i could do it. I sugesst practicing meditating maybe?
In my opinion that's a good first try but dont focus on just that.

another thing, if you try hard to project, it wont happen, you just gotta... let it happen.

Hope I've been some kind of help

[darknight]

I know it takes quite a lot of practise. I expect once I've done it once it'll be easier... because I'll know what it feels like...

I guess that the real problem is that I don't have a clue as to how well I'm doing... because I don't know what it feels like to project...

Meh, I guess I'll just have to keep trying.

[superjohn]

You could also try noticing things that are wrong in your dreams. FOr instance, if you see a sideways lightswitch, tell yourself its wrong. stuff like that. My 1st time my dad woke me up with construction, and then i fell back asleep, I immediatly had a dream, and in my dream, it was dark, then I told myself "Hey, its morning, i was just awake" then it just happened.

I actually gave up on AP, then with a clear mind, without APing on my mind, I did it.

Continue Practicing!

[xpwarrior3]

You do realize that there Astral Projection has different forms, right? Which one are you trying to get at? OOBE? Simple mind projection? Energy projection? Or are you just trying to project?

[darknight]

Erm... Well the answer there is that I don't know... I've only ever really encountered one kind of projection...

[Stealth]

i think i projscted on accident once either that or it was an EXTREEMLY vivid dream that i was semi concious during which i couldnt see 20ft in front of me
alot was black and there was a lake with black water(but it was clear like how water looks like its blue in the ocean)

[sssilky]

keep practicing and be patient, it will come. Being anxious to astral will not help but to have will power will help alot. Its the best when it happens suddenly just make sure you are aware. Soon i will become a pro at it and i will post my experiences soon.

[neopsychic]

Well here's something I learned while trying to OBE, eventually you'll keep trying so many times and experience everything enough that when the time comes to fully leave your body, you will be totatly calm. Complete seperation for me was not very exciting otherwise I would not have gotten to that point in the first place. As for a technique I would recommend teaching yourself to numb your body in 5-7 minutes then trancing untill you just snap out. The hard part is maintaining the trance as too deep of one will send you out of your body to slumberland... If you can get your mind super active during the trance then I can almost garentee you will exit your body in a matter of seconds. Just remember practice makes perfect.

[seNteNceD]

hey does anybody know any techinques to fall into a trance?

[konfusedkat]

yes i've done it before. thats why my meditations last so long sometimes. just let your self fall into a trance.

as for projection troubles just take it easy. it helps if you don't try so hard.

[seNteNceD]

you mean meditate for a long time and just fall into it? (btw what do you visualize when your meditating konfusedkat?)


thnks in advance!