I was sooooo close!

[Tenda]

Hello everyone, I do a lot of reading on this site but very little posting but today i just had to post. So i was laying in my bed listening to the ringing in my ears. I think i lost focus on it for a while and started to drift into sleep, but once I was slightly asleep i gained focus on the ringing again. I became very focused on the ringing for a while and then it happened. It was like an explosion of noise in my head and I found myself rushing down some strange winding tunnel moving very fast. I definitely could feel the vibrations pretty intensely. While i was rushing through this tunnel I was still half conscious of the physical world. I felt my legs move over the end of my bed and I felt like i was slowly falling off the edge of my bed. Just before my waist could leave my bed, I guess I just got to exited and lost concentration. When I snapped out of it, no part of my body was off the edge of my bed.

I'm positive I was feeling my astral body leaving my physical body. I'm pretty exited right now that i got that far, but still disappointed that I couldn't keep going, but I'm not complaining. Would you guys still considerer that an OOBE even though I didn't completely leave my body?

[junior]

Wow, good job. I would definetly consider this an OBE, no doubt about it. Don't worry too much about how short it was because your first few initial OBE's will be short but after a little while they'll gradually get longer. Any time you feel like you're falling and then you suddenly wake up and your physical body jumps, that's your astral body re-aligning itself with the physical body. There's been many of times when I sanked through the bed and landed on the floor. I could've sworn I had physically fell through the bed, but I had actually left my body. After I realized it I was back in my physical body just that quickly . My advice to you would be keep that excitment you have. Each night you sleep, keeping in mind your objective. This will cause it to happen again. Usually when it happens once, it's easy to project from there after. There's no need to focus on the ringing sounds you hear, just simply relax the physical body as much as possible. You'll know when you've left your body, because most of the time you'll either spontaneously float in the air or sink through the bed. You've did the hard part already, experiencing your first OBE. Just remember once you become aware that you're out of body, this is the time you need to stay focused. Because you can slip into a dream state in a heartbeat.


Good Luck =)

[Locke]

lucky i've been trying for a while now and can't get it to work kinda sucks but nice good job man

[psyked]

QUOTE Junior Wrote: this is the time you need to stay focused. Because you can slip into a dream state in a heartbeat. QUOTE

I agree with you BUT doesn't dream state take hours (till REM which takes like 7 hours or so?) to achieve?

[junior]

psyked said:

QUOTE Junior Wrote: this is the time you need to stay focused. Because you can slip into a dream state in a heartbeat. QUOTE

I agree with you BUT doesn't dream state take hours (till REM which takes like 7 hours or so?) to achieve?

No, that's a myth. In fact the you start dreaming the minute you fall asleep. The conscience is constantly rambling thoughts, therefore you'll dream immediately upon falling alseep. Now trying to remember when you actually started dreaming upon awakening can be rather difficult.

[psyked]

yup its true because today morning i woke up....then i went back to sleep dreamed and woke up like an hour later!

pretty weird because on most sites that scientifically explain stuff it says that people only dream in REM and that is like almost in the end of the sleep cycle but heh

[Darin Rosewood]

People do only dream in REM. And REM is at the end of the sleep cycle. What you're forgetting is that the sleep cycle is 90 minutes long. XD

[junior]

darin said:

People do only dream in REM. And REM is at the end of the sleep cycle. What you're forgetting is that the sleep cycle is 90 minutes long. XD

Well when we fall asleep we go through some sharp stages of SWS (Slow Wave Sleep) and then enter REM (Rapid Eye Movement). From the REM state is the point where people remember parts of their dreams. and yes REM does take place at a deferred time, not immediately. The SWS however does happen immediately upon falling asleep but most don't recall or remember dreaming during this. Dream journals can really help prove this. There's been nights I went to sleep and kept lucid consciousness from the time I laid down till the time I awakened. This is an advanced stage of lucid dreaming. I can't do that anymore because I stopped doing dream journals . But dream journals are cool, they do help you to recall dreams better as well as well as help develope lucid dreaming. And after some time you'll be able to consciously monitor yourself from the time you lie down, through out sleep, and to the time you awake and you'll be able to prove it to yourself that the dream state can start immediately =)

[Tenda]

Thanks for the advice junior. You say i shouldn't worry about the ringing, but thats kind of confusing because I've heard about concentrating on the ringing from multiple sources

[junior]

Tenda, when you've made it out of body focusing on anything whether it's sound or a visual object helps you to retain lucidity. I've also read multiple times people focus on the sounds before they leave their body. The reason someone would want to do that is to help keep their mind awake. And that may work for some people because the objective is to try and keep the conscious mind awake and let the physical body sleep. But for you Tenda, you've actually made it out of body. Simply relaxing and letting it happen is probably the best thing for you. At least that's my personal advice, does not necessarily mean everyone will agree. But It's a fact that you cannot leave your body until it's physically asleep. Sometimes focusing too much can disturb the physical body and hamper seperation. By all means try both to see what works for you, but as I said you've successfully projected before. You should do fine the next time

Good Luck =)

[The Adfeng]

This is my first post since i'm back from the beach, but down there one night, i came so close to an astral projection. The same thing happened to me, i could hear the loud ringing noises and i could see in my eyes a dizzyness swirl, and i was willing myself to have an AP. But right before i was almost out of my body, I twitched in my leg and arm like twice and i just lost all concentration. I come so close, but then something small happens and i lose all concentration. I don't know why, but it's just every time i try, and i get to the point where i'm almost out, i just get screwed up by something small.

[leethal]

i bet it's just practice. I'm afraid of the astral plane. mostly cause when i do psi at night, i get these feelings on my head like someone is touching me... that creeps me out...

[Darin Rosewood]

jj said:

This is my first post since i'm back from the beach, but down there one night, i came so close to an astral projection. The same thing happened to me, i could hear the loud ringing noises and i could see in my eyes a dizzyness swirl, and i was willing myself to have an AP. But right before i was almost out of my body, I twitched in my leg and arm like twice and i just lost all concentration. I come so close, but then something small happens and i lose all concentration. I don't know why, but it's just every time i try, and i get to the point where i'm almost out, i just get screwed up by something small.

Happens to me too. And I mean the same exact thing. Several of my friends tell me that that happens the first few times you AP, it's actually necessary in order to separate. Now, if only I could remember that when it happens rather than beating myself over the head about it. =P

[junior]

jj said:

This is my first post since i'm back from the beach, but down there one night, i came so close to an astral projection. The same thing happened to me, i could hear the loud ringing noises and i could see in my eyes a dizzyness swirl, and i was willing myself to have an AP. But right before i was almost out of my body, I twitched in my leg and arm like twice and i just lost all concentration. I come so close, but then something small happens and i lose all concentration. I don't know why, but it's just every time i try, and i get to the point where i'm almost out, i just get screwed up by something small.

Yeah I went through this stage as well. You said your arm twitched and then you lost all concentration. What probably happened was your astral body tried to seperate and the twitch you felt was your astral body re aligning itself back with the physical body. This is what probably disturbed the physical body and woke you up. This is normal during the beginning stages of Astral Projection. You are going through a phase of complex seperations. Most people go through this as beginners. But don't worry soon you'll start to actually project and they'll be short but will gradually get longer over time. I wouldn't quite say that it's necessary for this to happen for Astral Projection because some people learned to AP the first time they tried and have never went through this. But verrrrry few people can project that well from the beginning Now speaking for the majority you'll come close maybe the first few times, after a bit you'll experience short seperations, then gradually longer projections, and then more lucid projections. It's just experience, don't worry and beat yourself up about it. Just relax and let it happen. It'll come eventually.



Oh, I'v heard many times people have successful AP's near or by beaches and even on nights when the moon is full. May it somehow helps.

Good Luck =)

[The Adfeng]

Thanks. I didn't know that was one of the stages that you go through when trying. I'll try to do it again sometime. Is it still possible to AP during the day?