question/debate-draining energy

[psionic1warrior]

OK well since everything is made of energy so some say any ways what if you took all the energy out of an object? Yes i realize that'd be alot, hard and mostlikly impossible but I'm just saying would it disappear ?
Just post your thoughts about it here.

[leethal]

I believe you would have to achieve a level of control beyond even our generation...
First you would have to take out the heat energy of the object, hence delivering it to -273,15º C, and then prevent it from gaining energy from the enviroment (lets suppose you're in an isolated system) and then you would have to drain the light that is hitting the object (unless you wouldn't have to see it..) and then you would have to start desintegrating its matter... Now i dont know what level of psionics you would have to have, but i'm sure it'd be a lot...

[jeremy]

A few years ago this guy called Heisenberg discovered that when a particle was at a specific point in space its speed becomes unspecific (as in it doesn't actually have a specific speed). Similarly, when a particle goes at a specific speed it's no longer in a specific place. Naturally most of the time particles are somewhere in between these states.
Not long after that, Feynman realised that since energy was a function of location and speed, and that location and speed aren't specific, then particles couldn't possibly have a specific energy. Then a guy called Casamir thought "if particles don't have specific energy, then what about empty space?" and he figured out an experiment to find out, and discovered what we call the casamir effect thus proving once and for all that energy appears and disappears in this universe. The reason we don't see this happening all the time is that normally it happens very slowly.
Anyway, now to my idea. My theory on psi is that it doesn't cause things to happen explicitly but changes the probability of things (for example in levitation, I think that works by making the chance a graviton has of interacting with the object depend on the direction it's coming from - so you're basically making earth's gravity go straight through you without doing anything and increasing the pull from all the stars and black holes directly above your head).
So, if you could increase the chance of particles disappearing in the object you want to get rid of then after a while it might start to lose a few atoms, but you wouldn't be getting any energy out of it because it would be literally vanishing not changing into another form of energy.

[Nightshare]

Ummm.. If you do a lot of psi balls, and it uses up psi, then could you recharge it by draining energy from the sun or trees?

[GEOvanne]

yeah you can, i use energy from the earth

[electric666]

look if you drained the energy of an obgect then it wouldn't dissapear it would decitergrate because the atomic magnatism is gone

[leethal]

well you don't have that much power yet, do you? I've drained the air around me, and well... still breathing. Also, all matter seems to converge to a point of equal energy, thus sharing its energy with objects around it , until it's the same.

[Electro]

How do you drain energy out of a person? I know it can be harmful but just as a test. One of my teacher's in school is interested in psionics too and we said we will try it on eachother as a test.

[Mr.Experiment]

You must refrain from asking those types of questions.

It can be harmfull and in some cases fatal. Do not ask any questions about Draining someone or any sort of combat please.

Thanks

~Jano

[Electro]

My bad i'm sorry.

[Kriana]

I do not think you can actually destroy it to the point of simply being, "gone." The object, with or without energy, still retains it's mass. Perhaps you could send the atoms into an unstable flux, and dissipate the atoms causing the object to decompose into it's constituent atoms or molecules. However, the object would not have simply "vanished," but merely scattered into particles to small for the human eye to detect.

[pakars]

Hmm... If someone was strong enough, they could possibly break the bonds of the matter, turning it into energy(Like what happens during a nuclear explosion), which they would change into workable psi. Of course, it'd be much more controlled.

Back to the topic of draining, you can drain from living things. I don't recommend it, even though it has more of a "kick". Doing it, without enough skill or proper precautions can be dangerous(You can kill things...). If someone's going to drain from anything living, they should be careful only to take the excess energy that whatever they're draining from isn't using(I don't suggest it mostly because you can get the energy from elsewhere, even though it takes a bit longer. Even though energy from living things is stronger and faster, you should only use it if you have to get a lot of energy very quickly).

If it's another psion, I don't doubt that it'd be much much stronger than from an ordinary plant or animal.

psinoob said:

How do you drain energy out of a person? I know it can be harmful but just as a test. One of my teacher's in school is interested in psionics too and we said we will try it on eachother as a test.

Him and his teacher have each other's consent. If they both know the dangers, it's informed consent, and we don't have the right to stop them.

[leethal]

or heat it enough. When you heat an object, it's particles start shaking (if it's solid). From that on, give it a good whack

[storm]

Some reason i made energy by pressing on a plastic can ("Smokeless tobacco can") and it didn't disintegrate but i could feel the energy flowing through my hands when i put them close together can any one tell me why it didn't disintergrate?

[leethal]

because matter has a LOT of energy. much more than you can contain at a begginner level. To desintegrate matter you have to either separate the atoms or suck too much energy from the object at hand. a looooot of energy. desintegration is, as one rightly thinks, not an easy skill. thank goodness