jeremy
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Post by jeremy on Jun 27, 2007 1:26:04 GMT -5
Well, I do see what you mean, like I can push and pull stuff in whatever direction with telekinesis but I can't turn anything.
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idzuna
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Idzuna kitsune-son
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Post by idzuna on Aug 2, 2007 14:06:41 GMT -5
ive bin saying this to people forever.... you are most definetly correct. but the use of subsections does help when posting topics to help people find the info there looking for. Like lets say I wanted to learn how to manipulate a flame? I would understand a topic saying "pyrokinesis tips" would give me help with this. but a topic saying "psychokensis tips" might be about manipulating something entirely different. I do think its stupid to say that psychokinesis isn't pyrokesis because im sorry but that would be dead wrong. This goes with any other subsection, when you are doing any form of movement with the mind it IS psychokinesis.
well thats my 2 cents. sorry if I pissed anyone off >.<
_-idzuna-_
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nojix
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Post by nojix on Aug 2, 2007 14:40:20 GMT -5
I think fluff terms are good and bad, certain ones like pyrokinesis and and cryokinesis will help you figure out what exactly they are talking about but some things just get ridiculous like mechakenisis and things like that, i think that we should just set up a agreed list of subcategories like cryo, pyro, aero, umbra, luma, electro and all others would be considered just unnecessary fluff.
just my opinion, and by the way isn't geokinesis supposed to be the altering of minerals and rocks not the movement, for example changing a yellow topaz to a blue one or vice versa, cause thats how i always understood it to be.
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Post by leethal on Aug 3, 2007 11:30:26 GMT -5
i think that should be what it is. But people tend to think it's the ability to move the earth or rocks... while that is just plain telekinesis
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Post by mangakid19 on Aug 16, 2007 2:22:08 GMT -5
Actually, geokinesis is both moving the earth and changing its properties from what I read
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Post by leethal on Aug 29, 2007 16:20:04 GMT -5
for me it's all basic TK applied to
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Post by pchuownsu on Nov 2, 2007 22:43:06 GMT -5
people can learn thier own element ablitys so i dont see anything wrong with that, just becuz thier element may be a rock doesnt mean you should call them a newb
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Post by azaelius on Nov 18, 2007 16:04:56 GMT -5
Dear word, fluff terms are numerous.
But yeah, I always liked terms like Pyro, Cryo, Hydro, Geo, Aero and electro because they helped to clarify, and in my way of thinking, they really are slightly separate from Psychokinesis because of the level of connection between yourself and the element. Normal Psychokinesis on things like fire, water and air are achievable, but there is a greater degree of control and ability when there is a true connection between the element and the mind. It becomes much more of an extension of your consciousness, and thus, far greater skil is achieved. I know many will disagree, but that's always been my way of seeing it.
And also, I've always seen geokinesis as both the manipulation of the earth's properties and physically controlling/moving it.
Strangley enough, I've also seen and heard controlling the earth referrred to as "terrakinesis". Has anyone else also heard this one?
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Post by JediKaren on Nov 18, 2007 19:19:24 GMT -5
I have, but I don't like geo either.
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Post by Ronin Ensse on Jan 25, 2008 2:08:28 GMT -5
Dear word, fluff terms are numerous. But yeah, I always liked terms like Pyro, Cryo, Hydro, Geo, Aero and electro because they helped to clarify, and in my way of thinking, they really are slightly separate from Psychokinesis because of the level of connection between yourself and the element. Normal Psychokinesis on things like fire, water and air are achievable, but there is a greater degree of control and ability when there is a true connection between the element and the mind. It becomes much more of an extension of your consciousness, and thus, far greater skil is achieved. I know many will disagree, but that's always been my way of seeing it. And also, I've always seen geokinesis as both the manipulation of the earth's properties and physically controlling/moving it. Strangley enough, I've also seen and heard controlling the earth referrred to as "terrakinesis". Has anyone else also heard this one? I agree with azaelius here. So you may be able to use telekinesis to manipulate fire, air, water, etc. But it's very limited if you do so that way. Connecting to the element itself allows direct control and wider versatility. You can't start a fire or control its temperature with telekinesis. You can't freeze or evaporate water with it either. I believe that they are all essentially connected to basic psychic energy in essence, but they are all still their own elements. I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to keep using words like pyrokinesis, hydrokinesis, electrokinesis, geokinesis, aerokinesis, umbrakinesis, photokinesis, biokinesis, etc. That's what I learned and believe, and I think it's easier. Sorry if you guys don't like it.
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Post by snowind on Jan 31, 2008 23:35:29 GMT -5
Well, it's actually accepted to just use telekinesis, all the other are just energy manipulations about something, telekinesis englobes it in one and it's much more useful, and less confusing, besides you're using terms in latin and greek there, mixed so that can't be right. We please advice you to try to use just telekinesis because that way we can avoid unnecessary fluff. Do not take this personal please, this is what we tell everyone on the site about this terms. Have a good day.
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Ness
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Post by Ness on Feb 4, 2008 3:06:48 GMT -5
It is not good enough to only use telekinesis. I perform psychokinesis all the time. I soften and bend silverware. If I were to say telekinesis, that would imply movement. I am not moving the silverware; only softening it. AFFECTING it. Psychokinesis. Psychokinesis always works; telekinesis, usually. Just pointing that out.
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Post by Ronin Ensse on Feb 11, 2008 1:15:54 GMT -5
But that's another thing. The meaning of the word directly addresses what you're talking about. True, I may have some languages mixed up, but people generally know what I'm talking about. For example, pyrokinesis means "fire movement" which tells someone that you're controlling fire. Telekinesis means "distant movement", which most people associate with moving physical objects.
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Post by Ronin Ensse on Feb 11, 2008 1:18:25 GMT -5
And to Ness, I believe that manipulation of metal in that way would be classified as geokinesis. Metals come from the earth and are a type of mineral. So if you're changing the properties or state of the metal, you're using geokinesis (or terrakinesis depending on your preferences).
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Post by Fearn on Feb 12, 2008 23:16:19 GMT -5
This is why I use psychokinesis. Psycho- relating to the mind. Kinesis-movement. Psycho-kinesis mind-movement.
Psychokinesis is moving or altering anything with your mind.
[No double posting please, Ronin]
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