MySpace Virus

[neopsychic]

odbod said:

It's not like routers today don't have a firewall.

A routers firewall usally works by blocking things you add to them. Unless you install different software/hardware. Peergaurdian2 and protowall work backwords. It blocks a lot of stuff, then you choose who can "come in" to your comp.

PS. Yayz for Karen, hope that worked. Maybe now you learned why you shouldn't visit those pr0n sites

[odbod]

Router firewalls work by preventing anything from coming in, UNLESS you tell it otherwise. (port forwarding, DMZ, etc)

[neopsychic]

odbod said:

Router firewalls work by preventing anything from coming in, UNLESS you tell it otherwise. (port forwarding, DMZ, etc)

Read up on things about firewalls and routers. Took me an hour *grumble*. I was probably talking about what's known as IPSEC part of firewalls. What the heck was I thinking? Oh well. Heres something I found that tells the difference between IPSEC and firewalls.
"2.6 Will IPSEC make firewalls obsolete?

Some have argued that this is the case. Before pronouncing such a sweeping
prediction, however, it's worthwhile to consider what IPSEC is and what it
does. Once we know this, we can consider whether IPSEC will solve the
problems that we're trying to solve with firewalls.

IPSEC (IP SECurity) refers to a set of standards developed by the Internet
Engineering Task Force (IETF). There are many documents that collectively
define what is known as ``IPSEC'' [4]. IPSEC solves two problems which have
plagued the IP protocol suite for years: host-to-host authentication (which
will let hosts know that they're talking to the hosts they think they are)
and encryption (which will prevent attackers from being able to watch the
traffic going between machines).

Note that neither of these problems is what firewalls were created to solve.
Although firewalls can help to mitigate some of the risks present on an
Internet without authentication or encryption, there are really two classes
of problems here: integrity and privacy of the information flowing between
hosts and the limits placed on what kinds of connectivity is allowed between
different networks. IPSEC addresses the former class and firewalls the
latter.

What this means is that one will not eliminate the need for the other, but
it does create some interesting possibilities when we look at combining
firewalls with IPSEC-enabled hosts. Namely, such things as
vendor-independent virtual private networks (VPNs), better packet filtering
(by filtering on whether packets have the IPSEC authentication header), and
application-layer firewalls will be able to have better means of host
verification by actually using the IPSEC authentication header instead of
``just trusting'' the IP address presented."

[The Adfeng]

Wireless Routers DO have fire walls, but sometimes people don't use them to their full advantage. I use wireless internet in my house, and don't have it secure, for a couple reasons, but I know I should. There isn't anyone around here that has a computer, and I don't share printers, music, or anything like that, it's just pure internet connection. And plus, my computer has a built in firewall, plus AVG, plus Norton, plus Windows Defender, so I'm kinda safe, but you can never be too safe. I'm going to see about trying to figure out the password for this dang-ed thing, because I got it from one of my former principals, he didn't have laptop any more, so he gave it to me. It's a linksys, and it connects at about 100mbps. Not bad.

Viruses are bad and hard to remove, especially if it gets so far as making Zlob files, which are made in the registry. Basicly, if you delete the program, it's still there. Even a system restore won't get rid of it, you have to get rid of it manually. Which is why you should NEVER download anything like "SpyLocked" or something that looks similar to it's website. It's a rouge anti-spyware, and it's very harmful, and very hard to remove, and it took me almost 3 hours to be able to use the internet(it basicly makes all of your sites broken, and will set your homepage to it's page). Got kind of annoying, got a program to remove it, and it did.

What I'm trying to say is, anything out there can be a virus, just like goggle(do not go there), it puts a virus in your computer if you stay on the site for more than 43 seconds. If anyone has any questions on if a program is safe, or if your computer is acting up, I'll be here.

And it's nice to hear, JK, that you got your computer fixed. AVG is better than Norton in my opinion, because it doesn't take up 1,000,000,000 computer usage.

[Darin Rosewood]

Alright, now that that problem's fixed, anyone want to try to help me out on mine? Basically, I've been unable to access certain sites from this computer (astralsociety.com and gamereplays.org being a few of them), while I can on basically any other computer. I could access them from this computer before, but then the sites suddenly quit on me without warning. I hadn't been messing with my computer before it happened on each of the sites it did, so I really can't figure out what's wrong. Using a different browser makes no difference. I can't even ping or telnet the sites using the command prompt. My firewall/router isn't blocking them, as I can still access them from any other computer in the house. I'm running Windows XP. I really have no idea why it's doing this, and I haven't been able to find an answer so far. Maybe some of you guys could help, I dunno. I'd really appreciate it and probably give you karma as many times as I can over the next two weeks if you can help me out. ^_^

[Amodia]

You know, it's not good to have more then one active anti-virus program, for example; Norton A-V, F-Secure, AVG A-V.
They block each other making each other run with defectly.

[odbod]

Darin, have you checked your browser settings possibly?

[Darin Rosewood]

Already said it had nothing to do with the browser. If it did, I'd still be able to ping, telnet and tracert the sites, but it's as if they don't exist at all on my computer.

[Apollo]

Haha. These worms are really fun to make and they freak the darn out of people :-)

[JediKaren]

apollo don't ever say that again. You really haven't learned a thing have you?

[odbod]

Some worms were made to annoy you, some worms are actually destructive. An example of an annoyance was to duplicate tons of times to fill up your hard drive to it's cap. A destructive is this:

I got a svehost.exe file that added itself to startup, added registry to make sure it stayed. it made a folder called shellext, and duplicated itself as names to serials to programs(serials and cracks are illegal!!) and some inappropriate sites, but they were all the same svehost file. Luckily, I stopped it before it deleted task manager and msconfig.

I got the worm from going to a site trying to downloading from a mirror of spybot.