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Post by neopsychic on Apr 21, 2007 0:16:57 GMT -5
Guess who's back for another round of controversy?!?! Well, anyways. I was on the good ol youtube when I saw a video by Pen & Teller. They say that NDE's don't mean people are leaving their bodys. In the video, they show scientist who disprove it all. After watching the video myself, it got me thinking a bit. I thought: OK, they just disproved NDE's but didn't they just prove astral projection in the same sense? After all, people have had brain scans done to them while having an OBE and the records show that they were fully conscious but extremly relaxed. Coincidence? I think not! www.youtube.com/watch?v=714AS39CQ_I&mode=related&search=Warning: They do curse quite a bit in the video so if you are easily offended then do not watch. And yes I do realize that the video is a lil in the biased side. |
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Post by Jose~ on Apr 21, 2007 16:57:01 GMT -5
Cool video, but I still think people can't prove something they don't have 100% assurance to.
We only use 10% of our brains, 10%!!!!!
Imagine if we tap into that other 90% we wouldn't even need our bodies anymore, we'd be pure brains with extreme energy sources.
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Post by JediKaren on Apr 21, 2007 21:26:11 GMT -5
hmm that's a lie, a myth. We use all our brains. It's been show with various tests.
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Post by Nightshare on Apr 21, 2007 21:31:59 GMT -5
No i don't think so... there is still much of our brain undiscovered.
No one is born perfect, and you never will be perfect in this life.
If you had complete control of your mind and body, you would be perfect.
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Post by Mr.Experiment on Apr 21, 2007 23:03:13 GMT -5
You still wouldn't be perfect.
~Jano
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Post by Nightshare on Apr 21, 2007 23:10:58 GMT -5
good point. overlooked that there is also the natural sin your born with
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Post by psionwannabe on Apr 22, 2007 18:58:17 GMT -5
What Jedi Karen said is true: The ten percent bit is a myth, which never had any scientitfic validity to it. "And there is still much of our brain undiscovered." is plainly put: Outright wrong. It IS true that alot of the functions and exact meathods are un-discovered. The origin of consciousness and the storage of memory being two of the primary ones. But the brian itself is very much discovered, along with it's corresponding activities. One mearly has to watch a ECG read-out of the brain for a 24 hour period: Yu see that every bit of the brain tissue is active at some point of time or other.
As for the origin on the myth: it's pretty much tied to some miss-quotation of some philosopher of other. The only statement vaguely resembling it says thinking power or brain power (can't remmber which) not the brain itself. Every part of the brain is in use at some point of time. People just don't use it to it's full capacity. (An example of this being memory - when you forget something every part of your brain is working fine, yet you're just not using it to it's fullest potential.)
Sorry if this post sounds assinine or arrogant. After all, the reson I originaly joined was because I wanted to hunt down and correct some of the completely factualy incorrect beliefs that where cirulating.
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Post by JediKaren on Apr 22, 2007 19:18:26 GMT -5
thank you for putting that so well done
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Post by Nightshare on Apr 22, 2007 20:06:19 GMT -5
Let me rephrase my statement....
Only 10% at a time?
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Post by GEOvanne on Apr 22, 2007 20:13:29 GMT -5
pen and teller always disproves everything they talk about. i like to watch them sometimes, but they always endup winning what they were talking against. so this NDE thing dosnt really phase me. mabey they could find a way to say that PK or telepathy is fake.
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Post by psionwannabe on Apr 22, 2007 21:21:20 GMT -5
nightshare: I'd say it's more then that, but then, I don't know exactly what the ammount is.
JediKaren: Thanks.
GEOvanne: To be honest, I am not sure if it's right because that video was so beside the point that it caused me to tune it out after a while. I mean, A: The fact that the brain being oxygen deprived can be seen as one of two things: Either it causes hallucinations, or the deprivation of oxygen is what triggers the NDE. Both, in my oppinion, equaly likely.
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Post by jeremy on Apr 22, 2007 22:16:28 GMT -5
Penn and Teller don't have a great reputation in the scientific community - apparently they're pretty liberal with the word "proof" but I've never been interested in them enough to pay them much attention.
In the 1700's a couple of psychologists claimed to have disprooven psi. Well it was found out later that one of them hadn't even done a study and was just bragging and the other one had done a study but had made some pretty obvious mistakes in his calculations (his actual results prove psi exists). It's these two psychologists (I forget their names) that James Randii and people like him are always quoting.
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Post by lilmoe15 on Aug 6, 2007 22:30:35 GMT -5
Guess who's back for another round of controversy?!?! Well, anyways. I was on the good ol youtube when I saw a video by Pen & Teller. They say that NDE's don't mean people are leaving their bodys. In the video, they show scientist who disprove it all. After watching the video myself, it got me thinking a bit. I thought: OK, they just disproved NDE's but didn't they just prove astral projection in the same sense? After all, people have had brain scans done to them while having an OBE and the records show that they were fully conscious but extremly relaxed. Coincidence? I think not! www.youtube.com/watch?v=714AS39CQ_I&mode=related&search=Warning: They do curse quite a bit in the video so if you are easily offended then do not watch. And yes I do realize that the video is a lil in the biased side. I have had an NDE and I don't think its fake. |
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Post by neopsychic on Aug 7, 2007 7:03:05 GMT -5
What Jedi Karen said is true: The ten percent bit is a myth, which never had any scientitfic validity to it. "And there is still much of our brain undiscovered." is plainly put: Outright wrong. It IS true that alot of the functions and exact meathods are un-discovered. The origin of consciousness and the storage of memory being two of the primary ones. But the brian itself is very much discovered, along with it's corresponding activities. One mearly has to watch a ECG read-out of the brain for a 24 hour period: Yu see that every bit of the brain tissue is active at some point of time or other. As for the origin on the myth: it's pretty much tied to some miss-quotation of some philosopher of other. The only statement vaguely resembling it says thinking power or brain power (can't remmber which) not the brain itself. Every part of the brain is in use at some point of time. People just don't use it to it's full capacity. (An example of this being memory - when you forget something every part of your brain is working fine, yet you're just not using it to it's fullest potential.) Sorry if this post sounds assinine or arrogant. After all, the reson I originaly joined was because I wanted to hunt down and correct some of the completely factualy incorrect beliefs that where cirulating. I don't believe in that 10% crap either but I've met a few people who I'd say use about 10% of their brain  |
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Post by Zangetsu on Aug 8, 2007 16:58:59 GMT -5
That we only use ten percent is a myth, however ten percent of the human genome is still unmapped. The more religious scientists say that it is the makeup of the human soul. I forgot where i heard this, but i know it's true, i looked it up before typing this.
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