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Post by JediKaren on Oct 1, 2007 13:15:50 GMT -5
I hate to admit this, but I'm not sure what this shelling stuff is. Psipog's article on shelling sucks. They never explain what a shell for a psi ball is (one of the many reasons why I don't think psipog is the greatest of all psi site). So can someone come up with a one to two sentence definition of what a shell is? The glossary needs it. You will get a karma point.
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Amodia
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Post by Amodia on Oct 1, 2007 13:33:46 GMT -5
A Shell is an extra layer of Psi around the Psi ball that you program to keep the Psi 'Inside the Psi ball' making you able to stop focusing on it but it will still be there.
If you don't create a shell, the Psi Ball wouldn't last for a longer time, would disappear a short while after you stop focusing on it.
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Post by eldurner on Oct 1, 2007 13:34:00 GMT -5
a denser layer of psi around a construct or psiball used to help keep the ball or construct alive for a longer period of time.
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Post by Fearn on Oct 1, 2007 15:38:34 GMT -5
It is an extremely dense layer of psi that you harden, so that the psi cant get out of the psiball. Kind of like when you put something in a plastic bag to keep leaking. I had a lot of trouble with it, but once you get it down it is almost invaluable.
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Post by Dumplins on Oct 1, 2007 15:48:16 GMT -5
It is an extremely dense layer of psi that you harden, so that the psi cant get out of the psiball. Kind of like when you put something in a plastic bag to keep leaking. I had a lot of trouble with it, but once you get it down it is almost invaluable. If I'm correct when done you can add more psi to the shell and psi ball am I right  |
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Slein
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Post by Slein on Oct 1, 2007 18:38:48 GMT -5
This brings some other questions to my mind.
How come the psi-ball will dissipate and the shell won't?
Which brings up the next question: Isn´t it just doing what you expect it to do?
And Can't you actually program a psi-ball to be self-preserving, so it won't dissipate?
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Post by Fearn on Oct 1, 2007 19:06:30 GMT -5
It is an extremely dense layer of psi that you harden, so that the psi cant get out of the psiball. Kind of like when you put something in a plastic bag to keep leaking. I had a lot of trouble with it, but once you get it down it is almost invaluable. If I'm correct when done you can add more psi to the shell and psi ball am I right What? Can you add more energy to the psiball after it is shelled? Is that what you said? If so then, yes you can. The shell lets your energy in but no energy out. Or at least it makes it not leak. |
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Post by Brilenus on Oct 1, 2007 19:07:25 GMT -5
I agree with Slein on this. I have yet to shell anything I create, yet nothing has ANY problem lasting a month or longer. Just do not expect them to fall apart and they should be fine.
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Post by Dumplins on Oct 1, 2007 19:08:30 GMT -5
yup thats what I was saying ;D
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Post by Fearn on Oct 1, 2007 19:26:33 GMT -5
This brings some other questions to my mind. How come the psi-ball will dissipate and the shell won't? Which brings up the next question: Isn´t it just doing what you expect it to do? And Can't you actually program a psi-ball to be self-preserving, so it won't dissipate? Shelling is just a common way of making your psiball preserve it self. The psiball and the shell dissipates. I agree with Slein on this. I have yet to shell anything I create, yet nothing has ANY problem lasting a month or longer. Just do not expect them to fall apart and they should be fine. Yes but you admit to being able to generate vast amounts of psi, so it should last longer. You just constantly replenish what it has lost. For the average psion this is not possible, shelling allows you to longer conserve the energy lost when you psiball leaks. |
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Post by Brilenus on Oct 3, 2007 17:35:04 GMT -5
Yes but you admit to being able to generate vast amounts of psi, so it should last longer. You just constantly replenish what it has lost. For the average psion this is not possible, shelling allows you to longer conserve the energy lost when you psiball leaks. It is not all that hard to link a construct up to an alternate source of power though, and even if not gaining energy, many of my constructs will stay in the same state as they were left in. After three days or so they start to lose form and become corrupted with rogue code/energy. There is always a way to get around something, provided enough willpower, experimentation, and time. - Vornakos |
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Post by Fearn on Oct 3, 2007 21:59:10 GMT -5
It is not all that hard to link a construct up to an alternate source of power though, and even if not gaining energy, many of my constructs will stay in the same state as they were left in. After three days or so they start to lose form and become corrupted with rogue code/energy. There is always a way to get around something, provided enough willpower, experimentation, and time. - Vornakos But this is still replenishing a constructs' energy with energy. Instead of using your own you are using something else's. I think that either method would work perfectly fine. It just seems easier for me to shell it. |
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Post by Slein on Oct 4, 2007 3:01:46 GMT -5
I still don't really understand. If you shell a psi-ball, you basically put psi around the ball, so that the shell dissipates first and then the ball. But whatever amount of psi and programming you use on the shell you could just as well use on the ball it self. Just making the psi-ball out of one compnent with more energy and more programming, instead of making it out of different parts... You can of course still shell if it's easier to visualise, but the way I visualise my psi makes it hard to make a shell. I do get my psi-balls strongest with this visualisation though.  |
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Post by Fearn on Oct 5, 2007 17:04:02 GMT -5
I still don't really understand. If you shell a psi-ball, you basically put psi around the ball, so that the shell dissipates first and then the ball. But whatever amount of psi and programming you use on the shell you could just as well use on the ball it self. Just making the psi-ball out of one compnent with more energy and more programming, instead of making it out of different parts... You can of course still shell if it's easier to visualise, but the way I visualise my psi makes it hard to make a shell. I do get my psi-balls strongest with this visualisation though. The shelling I'm talking about, is the one where you make a really dense layer of psi around the ball that keeps the psi form leaking out. |
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Post by Ayrrus on Oct 5, 2007 18:55:53 GMT -5
I always picture a plastic globe (something that you would put a special baseball in? Anyone know what I'm talking about?) I put my psi just inside this other layer and it holds the energy there. Try programming a psi-ball that has a shell and then make it get it's own energy. I haven't been able to do this yet, but I am trying  |
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