Is psi bound by time?

[Koushiro]

I was wondering if psi was bound to the present just like we are.
Do you think psi could be four dimentional?

As in, can it move through time.

I was wondering this because i had an idea. If psi was four dimentional, then a construct could be made to go back in time, by say 10 years, and start collecting energy up until the present day. You could then find it, and have a whole ten years supply of collected energy, which only took about a couple minutes to make.

[bigdognick6]

*sigh* yes this is possible (what do you think happens in precog or micro pk?) but totally pointless. if you have the ability to program something to last for 10 years and self renew than you can just make a couple constructs that collect from nearly infinite sources like the sun.

another reason this is bad is because, what would you do with that massive ammount of energy? its like calories which are energy for your body, is it good to get a ton of them if you aint gonna use it up?

[Koushiro]

I see your point. Thanks anyway.

[seraph]

you could put it in some kinda machine that requires massive amounts of energy to work. possibly to trigger chemical reactions. energy bomb aka the nuke! just a matter of time till someone figures out how to make a nuke outta pure energy. bad stuff

[palimpsest]

If psi was four dimentional, then a construct could be made to go back in time, by say 10 years, and start collecting energy up until the present day. You could then find it, and have a whole ten years supply of collected energy, which only took about a couple minutes to make.

Then we could see if time travel either branches the worlds out (creates a universe where you did not send the psiball back so as to preserve the timeline. While you wait in vain for the psiball to return, other-you panicks at being stalked by this huge honkin' energy ball from who-knows-where.
Pangloss's Law demands that other-you naturally lives in a dystopian society, since the psiball interfered gathering energy that would have emotionally healed a future Oprah Winfrey at a crucial moment in her life, instead she remained embittered and became a politician.)

or loops (so you were fated to send a psiball back because there already was a psiball gathering energy from when your future self sent it back.)

It would take loads more programming than a construct that simply gathers energy from the sun but it's still an extra technique to consider and I think it's a theoretically cool idea. Maybe someone who's phenomenally good at programming but better at dimensional projection and postcognition than distance-drawing and patience would find some use for it?

[furmen]

Quite possible for it to travel through time, though energy is theorized to exist in all time and therefore also be timeless existing in what's called a "Superposition". So we really don't know for sure if it does, so umm, by all means, try?

[Brilenus]

Try doing some experimenting with it. Personally, I have seen things happen that suggest that it is possible. For an interesting experiment, tell yourself and mean it that you will create an orb of energy to your right hand side in six minutes, and then send it to the past. If you do it correctly, you will instantly have an orb of energy next to yourself, so long as you truly do intend to create it in a few moments.

[Intrigue]

Most things are bound by time, to one degree or another. Time is essentially a frame of reference, a viewpoint by which we look at the world and universe at large. It is also variable, dependent on a series of factors and can be altered, or skewed. Psi itself is indeed bound by time, but I would debate over whether pre-cog in and of itself is based on the energies of psi as opposed to a loosening of one's temporal 'presence.'

In short, you co-exist (mentally) in a separate probability, not a defined engraved future (this would be pre-cog, a view of things which COULD occur/exist but do not quite exist yet).

Kinestemporal presence? I don't know. There was a term I heard or something a view days ago which fits this perfectly, but I can't recall what it was.

Anyways, I would say that the energy itself is more or less bound by time-- but no more than anything else is. Time can be altered by velocity, gravity, and probably other factors we don't yet know.

[The Adfeng]

Well, time is relevant. I guess you could, but I don't know if you would even use up all of that energy that you got through 10 years if it keeps replenishing itself, that's like what bigdognick said, it's having calories that you won't even use.

[Koushiro]

Okay, the whole ten years idea was ony hypothetical. And also the collecting energy idea was aswell, i just wanted to gather some opinions, ideas and facts. Im actually thinking about a construct which can go back in time and scans peoples minds and what not, and try to get a better ideas about the different era's.

History books are okay, but thoughts feelings and maybe if the construct is constructed right, peoples memories about what time they lived in.

[Admiral Refuge]

lordtakari said:

Im actually thinking about a construct which can go back in time and scans peoples minds and what not, and try to get a better ideas about the different era's.

History books are okay, but thoughts feelings and maybe if the construct is constructed right, peoples memories about what time they lived in.

Wow, that's a great idea!
If you can do this, I would love to help out somehow(I'm no good at psi though, but I love history!)

Fixed the quote.
Fearn

[ludacruz]

According to Einstein, light is constant so if you make a construct move faster than the speed of light, I think it would be possible in theory. Very interesting.

[tor86]

You said you wanted to scan people's head to find out about different era's.. Why don't just try to astral project back in time? You could also try to visit the well known akashic records, if you have the skill..

Another trick:
If you are under psychic attack, you could build a psi ball, program it to go back in time to gather energy, and when it comes to the present, builds a shield around you.. With that much energy, it should be inpenetrable. What about that?

By the way, if someone proves it works that you could send a psiball back and forth in time, it could mean a lot in the usefullness of psi

[Fearn]

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