icerat
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Post by icerat on Sept 25, 2006 12:57:35 GMT -5
i am against it because the future is unfixed and a misreading could be deadly but i want to hear your opinion. see if you can change my mind. (yes you are for it / no you are against it)
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Post by JediKaren on Sept 25, 2006 16:10:58 GMT -5
yes it is deadly, but there are a few times like wanting to know the answer to a question you just asked to a friend won't harm anyone.
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Post by somerandomkid on Sept 25, 2006 20:18:44 GMT -5
I agree with JediKaren. If it is about like...did I get an A on that test today or something, sure go ahead. But, if your asking more extreme serious questions, then I would normally be against it.
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Post by fehoru on Sept 25, 2006 20:41:58 GMT -5
in my opinion it is not the knowledge that is deadly, it is your reaction to it. Choose not to react untill you are confident, in the prediction and in your abilities, and then it depends on whether you decide to take extreme actions, or to take action in a slow, organized and calm fashion. If you have no idea what the future holds, then your lack of prediction could cause as much trouble.
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.tyler.
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Post by .tyler. on Sept 25, 2006 21:30:36 GMT -5
Doesn't the future change anyway? Well atleast with big things. Like if you see yourself getting killed by a car or something you could always whip out a 9mm and shot yourself in the face to prove the future wrong.
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rainman
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Post by rainman on Sept 29, 2006 20:49:30 GMT -5
"Doesn't the future change anyway? Well atleast with big things. Like if you see yourself getting killed by a car or something you could always whip out a 9mm and shot yourself in the face to prove the future wrong."
....i couldent explain it any better
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pillz
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Post by pillz on Sept 29, 2006 22:08:47 GMT -5
Wait. The question is "for or against." The choices are "yes" or "no" or that other one.
whuh?
hey rainman, i think something would stop you from doing that, if it's a set thing. if an infallible prophet told you how you'd die, that's how you'd die. if you got a gun, i'm thinking that you'd convince yourself to stay alive, or someone would stop you, or the gun wouldn't work.
if the future is really foretold, then everything will work towards it. the cars on the street, pedestrians, birds, clouds, anything that was seen in the vision.
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.tyler.
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Post by .tyler. on Sept 29, 2006 22:14:35 GMT -5
Ok pillz how about this. You see yourself getting killed in a car crash in your Ford Focus. The next day you obviously don't want that car anymore so you get rid of your Ford Focus and get a different car. The point here is, the future is in your own hands.
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pillz
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Post by pillz on Sept 29, 2006 22:18:40 GMT -5
But has that actually happened?
yeah, i could see it, just as i could dream living in a paper house, or something. but if it's a bona fide prophecy, not just a scary thought, it'll have to happen.
i kinda wanna bring God into this. He's omniscient, right? So if he knows your gonna eat chicken instead of beef, then by golly, that's what you'll eat. Same thing as what I'm saying about real prophecies.
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Female_Jedi_Master
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Post by Female_Jedi_Master on Sept 30, 2006 11:47:14 GMT -5
When one see's the future they see one of many that could, would or may happen. The future is ALWAYS in motion, sometimes thoses that see the future get a hit, others its off. The future depends on serval things. Example the choices you choose to make at any given moment will effect your future as will the actions you take to thing. Seeing the future is not a perfect art and because the future is always in motion always changing, shaping and re changing it's self it hard to say. If you all keep talking about it... it may change into a heated topic where no one will be right. The past is the past, the future is there future, we should be focuing on the here and now for that is the most important thing of all. Whats happening now is what matters. Don't try and change the future it changes itself. Female Jedi Master
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icerat
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Post by icerat on Sept 30, 2006 12:47:13 GMT -5
ummmmm... you lost me
ok you see your death by car accident the next day, you decide to walk and get hit, you take the bus and it gets hit, you stay at home the car comes through the wall.
the point is that upon seeing the future you try to avoid it but you can make it worse raqther than better.
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.tyler.
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Post by .tyler. on Sept 30, 2006 23:42:11 GMT -5
a car comes through the wall? what the hell are you talking about?
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Post by JediKaren on Sept 30, 2006 23:43:48 GMT -5
it's an example of what could happen in the future.
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.tyler.
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Post by .tyler. on Sept 30, 2006 23:46:03 GMT -5
ya and thats about as likely as getting eaten by a toaster
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Post by JediKaren on Oct 1, 2006 9:06:01 GMT -5
Tyler that isn't the point.
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