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Post by loudernow320 on Nov 30, 2007 1:44:23 GMT -5
Okay Im a teenager who around two months started practicing psionics. After researching and practicing psi and everything I have a new view of ghost. What do you believe about ghost? Are they real? Are they fake? What are they made of? Are they good or evil? ETC. My personal view is this.I believe that after you die your spirit stays on earth swirling and composed as pure energy. You only stay on the earth if you have something to say to someone or until your finally at peace and you can finally pass over. I believe that people are so programmed from a young age from movies books etc. that goes are evil and do evil things. Yes there are some noisy spirits (because i think that we still have our personality as a spirit) So if you were a loud person, your spirit might make itself known with lots of noise. Anyway people dont realize of how sensitive they can be but therebrain programmed with evil spirits shuts up all the messages that spirits are trying to tell us with fear or suspision of everything that happens(example. a spirit is trying to give you a nice message but you hear a noise and think the spirit is trying to scare you) Also people are so gullible. Just because one person thought a particular house was haunted, people who go to this particular house are anxious to hear the slightest sound and confirm or associate it with that of a ghost or spirit.So anyway thats my views of ghost I would love to hear what everyone else thinks Im very open to different views.
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ccey88
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Post by ccey88 on Nov 30, 2007 4:04:28 GMT -5
No, big deal. Spirits do exist.We spirits ever since we are born. -_- as for ghost , they are spirits also but are bound to earth when they have some things they have to complete before they can crossover that is why they are called ghosts or earthbound spirits.I had many encounters with spirits and i don't like to use the word ghosts , you give them a bad name.Not all ghost are harmful, only some but then if you learn to respect them as they are .They will not bother you except if disturb them or sumthingelse......... i dunno, just remember , we are spirits too when we die.
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Boldylocks
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Post by Boldylocks on Dec 1, 2007 15:16:59 GMT -5
From two psychic "ghost hunter" women I spoke with at a recent Health Fair this past Fall, ghosts are not the same thing as demons. Though many demons are very good with imitating differnt forms, and will sometimes fool people into thinking they are a deceased soul.
Ghosts are souls of people who , for whatever reason can't or refuse to move on. Because there is a law of Free Will in the Universe, if you prefer to hang around your home after you die, you are entitled to do that. These women said that most "ghosts" don't leave because they are afraid to move to higher dimensions. Many of them feel they don't deserve to for whatever reason. They said that if you are a real jerk or pedophile, or whatever when you are alive, then you are going to the same way after death.
Some are children trying to find their parents. These kids dont' know they are dead. There are also negative souls-- real S.O.B's who will try to keep other souls from leaving the Earth also. Sometimes these psychics will encounter having to deal with a negative soul first to get them to back off and detach themselves from a soul they are harrassing.
These two women (both are clairyvoyants) said that what they don't like on all of these ghost hunter documentaries is that most of the times, you don't see the researchers try to find help for these souls.
They mentioned one colleague of thiers who clears out homes of spirits, (and who can see the spirits) said there are literally lines of souls who wait for her to help send them to "the Light" because they know through the "souls' grapevine" that she will be in a certain area. It is very rare for a live human to bother helping earthbound souls find their way to the Light, which is probably why she gets alot of response in the spirit World . One of the ways they do help some of the earthbound souls find the light is by trying to contact other deceased relatives of the ghost who died before them and are already in higher dimensions. Sometimes they can get an angel to help guide the person--but they won't if the person refuses help.
Of course, there are many souls who do not WANT to enter the light, so the clairyvoyants do not push them.
These women clear homes for free. They will not charge for thier ghost clearing services.
They are a mother/daughter team. Psychic abilities run on the mother's side of thier family. The mother cannot speak with the ghosts, but can just see them. The daughter can both speak and see the spirits.
I had my palm read by the mother. Wow was she ever on track! They are very sincere down-to-earth women.
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Post by brandonslau on Dec 3, 2007 15:46:24 GMT -5
They are all spirits in my view just lower or higher vibrations or ranks. They are made of energy. Some spirits which had a physical form from before are echoes of energy repeating something they did right before their death or acting out their death. Some spirits(remeber I am referring to all spiritual beings)can travel from plane to plane, others can't. Some stay on the earth some chose to go to the spiritual realm. I believe that is the etheric or astral realm or something like it.
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Post by psyked on Dec 5, 2007 22:14:43 GMT -5
in my point of view ghost are lower vibration spirits that are trapped in the illusion of the physical either because they are so attached to it, or they have to achieve something. I also believe that also when a ghost reaches a certain vibration level it has a choice of reincarnating or going to a higher level of consciousness
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Post by brandonslau on Dec 5, 2007 22:23:20 GMT -5
I would love to go to the astral when I die. Then again.. No.
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Boldylocks
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Post by Boldylocks on Dec 8, 2007 13:48:26 GMT -5
Over in the Astral Projection section, I posted a webpage of a guy who astral projects, and meets up with people who have died who are in the astral plane. He tries to help them out of where they are stuck on the astral plane. Some of the areas he has to go to are not so nice .
A few days ago I sent him an email for him to help my dead uncle, who I have reason to believe is or was stuck in some dark area. (my aunt heard his voice crying out to her that he couldnt' see after he died)
I just got his reply to my email. The guy is very down to earth!
here's part of what he told me:
"Hi Lisa, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Thank you for such a sincere email, I will indeed try to contact your uncle, who knows maybe I already have. I do a lot of rescues where I never even know the names of those I help.
Regarding your uncle, It won’t matter what other people thought about him as to where he will find himself in the afterlife, that depends totally on where he expects to be – by the sounds of it I get the impression that he didn’t really have a ‘spirtiual’ awareness, so maybe he has indeed got lost. However I have to say that NOBODY is lost forever, most of the time it’s instance, sometimes it takes a while, but eventually everybody opens up to the higher energies. There will be many many beings trying to reach him, people who love him and care for him, they will not abandon him & eventually he will notice the energy they send to him. ...."
So I guess if people are stuck on the astral plane, or on the physical plane after death, they arn't doomed to stay there for all eternity.
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Post by The Adfeng on Dec 8, 2007 16:25:06 GMT -5
I believe ghosts are here from either their own will, or they are being held here, or are waiting for someone to die. Some ghosts don't mean harm, but some do. So, let's say a man lived in this house for 80 years, and when he died, his spirit didn't want to leave. So he stayed there, until he thinks it's time to go. There are also other words like earthbound, ect ect but that's getting a lot more technical in my view.
So, yes, I think ghosts are real.
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Post by readytofaceit on Jan 11, 2008 7:10:32 GMT -5
I see spirits often and have for over 25 years..I tend to be scared as it happens and afterwards feel like I had nothing to fear. Not one spirit has ever tried to harm me. They just want to make contact.
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Lady Takara
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Post by Lady Takara on Jan 22, 2008 17:33:12 GMT -5
Ghosts are spirits that just have not moved on, for whatever reason. My grandfather died recently. We managed to get down there. Of course besides missing him, I was upset, because it's been two years since he saw me, and he hasn't seen how much I've changed (and in my mind prettier) and nor did he get to see me graduate. At least he got to wish me a happy 18th birthday. Anyways the next day we get down to where he is and later that night, he was around. He poked me popy in the back, it was kind of funny. But it was nice. He did get to see me. Ghosts can't interact with us in a normal way. They act through energy. Not all are powerful enough to harm. Ever seen the show Ghosts Hunters on the Sci-Fi channel? Anyways I watched one show one evening tuning into it, and in the video a ghost litteraly smacks a guy up and has him drop and even all the other people were like o.o; Well you get what I mean and clearly nothing could have caused that, except a ghost.
Entities too exist. Yet what is the difference between spirit and entity? Well maybe they are one and the same. Ghost Hunters generally seem to use them interchangeable, and some just refer to a non-human "soul" or aka a "demon" as an entity. Shadow People are considered an entity. We have Spirit Guides. I am also sure that there are spirits that watch over some of us.
Ghost to me in essence is someone who has not moved on. Spirits have moved on, but they could be here for whatever reason, maybe to get a message across or try to impress upon our minds a particular idea that could lead to something revolutionary, while it may sound Spirit Guide-ish, it is in a way, but every spirit is different. Some probably prefer to watch over their families. I do not know. But it isn't like ghosts that linger on. That's all I can really say.
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Post by ljboy585 on Jan 25, 2008 14:57:37 GMT -5
From two psychic "ghost hunter" women I spoke with at a recent Health Fair this past Fall, ghosts are not the same thing as demons. Though many demons are very good with imitating differnt forms, and will sometimes fool people into thinking they are a deceased soul. Ghosts are souls of people who , for whatever reason can't or refuse to move on. Because there is a law of Free Will in the Universe, if you prefer to hang around your home after you die, you are entitled to do that. These women said that most "ghosts" don't leave because they are afraid to move to higher dimensions. Many of them feel they don't deserve to for whatever reason. They said that if you are a real jerk or pedophile, or whatever when you are alive, then you are going to the same way after death. Some are children trying to find their parents. These kids dont' know they are dead. There are also negative souls-- real S.O.B's who will try to keep other souls from leaving the Earth also. Sometimes these psychics will encounter having to deal with a negative soul first to get them to back off and detach themselves from a soul they are harrassing. These two women (both are clairyvoyants) said that what they don't like on all of these ghost hunter documentaries is that most of the times, you don't see the researchers try to find help for these souls. They mentioned one colleague of thiers who clears out homes of spirits, (and who can see the spirits) said there are literally lines of souls who wait for her to help send them to "the Light" because they know through the "souls' grapevine" that she will be in a certain area. It is very rare for a live human to bother helping earthbound souls find their way to the Light, which is probably why she gets alot of response in the spirit World . One of the ways they do help some of the earthbound souls find the light is by trying to contact other deceased relatives of the ghost who died before them and are already in higher dimensions. Sometimes they can get an angel to help guide the person--but they won't if the person refuses help. Of course, there are many souls who do not WANT to enter the light, so the clairyvoyants do not push them. These women clear homes for free. They will not charge for thier ghost clearing services. They are a mother/daughter team. Psychic abilities run on the mother's side of thier family. The mother cannot speak with the ghosts, but can just see them. The daughter can both speak and see the spirits. I had my palm read by the mother. Wow was she ever on track! They are very sincere down-to-earth women. I agree with this view make the most since to me.
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Post by Liz on Feb 2, 2008 14:11:41 GMT -5
I agree with Lady Takara in that I believe that ghosts are spirits that haven't moved on. Up until recently I've had no doubts that is what they are. I've always been able to sense/feel ghosts and my old house was very active. I recently heard an argument that ghosts (even the "good" ones) are simply demons attempting to earn our trust and eventually destroy our lives. I found this hard to believe, but played with the idea for a bit. As of a few days ago I've discarded the idea.
My view: yes, there are entities out there that pose as something benevolent in order to get to us, but they're not all like that. While I have felt negative/evil spirits, I've had one spirit in particular that would watch over me.
Don't know if this made sense. Just my take ^^
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Post by sleepyhollow94 on Feb 2, 2008 19:55:13 GMT -5
I certainly believe they exist, but I'm not sure exactly what they are or why they are here. I definetely think it's likely that, for some reason, they never move on. Perhaps they didn't want to move on. Or, a theory that I half-constructed from a book: maybe each and every one of our souls, or lives that our souls live, has a specific purpose. And if that purpose isn't carried out before your body dies, your spirit remains on earth until its purpose has been completed. But then again, a small part of me still believes in Santa Claus, so I'm not sure how much you should put in my theory.
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