Theory on Precognitive dreaming

[snowind]

After some especulation and research on my part, I tried to understand an event that happened to me with precognitive dreams.

As some of you may have noticed, when we have Precognitive Dreams, normally you don't recall them until seconds before they are about to happen. Which got me wondering.

Why are most (because we can recall some of the precognitive dreams), of our dreams only remembered when the event is about to happen?

Then I started brainstorming and searching for answers. Maybe what happens is that we recieve information in that moment (seconds before it happens) and our brain automaticly relates that information to a dream because it's what the brain knows, not because we actually dreamt it.

I know that many of the precogs here will agree with me that is quite rare how we don't remember this "dreams" until they are about to happen. So wouldn't a better reason would be that they are not dreams? It's information that we just got and since our brain can't tell us how that information appeared we automaticly associate it with dreaming.

I would like to know what you all think (Only people who have experienced it first hand, since I don't know how any other one might understand what I'm talking about).

[JediKaren]

well I do know that I did dream, I can remember the dream to this day, about my father yelling at me about a certain event. I can remember waking up from that dream, glad it was just a dream. I can remember three weeks later standing before my father exactly, word to word match, asking me about this certain event and knowing if I answered the way I did in my dream, I would get yelled at. Instead, I chose a different route and didn't get yelled at. But for this argument, my dream was a precognitive dream.

[snowind]

Yeah, I know that there are a lot of precognitive dreams, I'm just saying about things that feel like a dream but I've noticed that I haven't really dreamed some of those... is weird.

[lilmoe15]

I don't have that many precogs in my dreams but sometimes a few seconds before it happens I recall my dream that I had that night.

Good brainstorming Snowind.

[snowind]

Well thanks! You know just sharing my thoughts

[brandonslau]

Well this has never happened to me, the few precog dreams I had I remebered them even before they happened.Are you meaning that you are reminded of them?

[snowind]

Kind of, It's something different from precognitive dreaming.

It's when you don't have a precognitive dream, but your mind makes you think you did, even when it was just plain precognition, but since sometimes the mind doesn't know how to explain it, it makes you think you dreamt that when in fact you didn't.

Do I make my self clearer now?

[ismavatar]

Yeah, I remember reading a study on that. It actually showed that a certain neuron in your brain fires by accident, because two parts are trying to run, and it just happens to be in the way. As a result, it triggers an "I vaguely remember this" response. This is usually called Deja Vous. Sorry I can't name the specific brain recepter/neurons/regions, it escapes me right now, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were somewhere in the Hipocampus, where memories are stored.

Basically yes, you say "Hmm, this seems familiar", but you can't put your finger on any real-life events because your memory would have been stronger, so your brain assumes that it must have been a dream.

If you frequently experience dreams and later Deja Vous, I would highly encourage you to keep a pen and paper by your bed. Immediately after waking up, write down your dreams. This way you have a written record for if you actually did dream something, or if it was just your brain making things up on you. It's also an excellent way to just remember dreams in general, since we do tend to forget them 5 minutes after waking up.

[snowind]

Yeah, I know we tend to forget them after a while, but it's weird for me because I can actually remember most of my dreams even after weeks or years have passed, I still remember some dreams I had when I was a kid, especially the nightmares. I do store them, well I draw my dreams, it's more of a sketch dream journal... I find it better to draw them, anyway... that's why I came up with this, because there's some precogs that I assumed were dreams but I don't have a record of them... I don't remember those dreams either, even when my brain tells me I dreamed it... Which is weird... but at least I have a proper explanation now...

[goliath797]

snowind said:

After some especulation and research on my part, I tried to understand an event that happened to me with precognitive dreams.

As some of you may have noticed, when we have Precognitive Dreams, normally you don't recall them until seconds before they are about to happen. Which got me wondering.

Why are most (because we can recall some of the precognitive dreams), of our dreams only remembered when the event is about to happen?

Then I started brainstorming and searching for answers. Maybe what happens is that we recieve information in that moment (seconds before it happens) and our brain automaticly relates that information to a dream because it's what the brain knows, not because we actually dreamt it.

I know that many of the precogs here will agree with me that is quite rare how we don't remember this "dreams" until they are about to happen. So wouldn't a better reason would be that they are not dreams? It's information that we just got and since our brain can't tell us how that information appeared we automaticly associate it with dreaming.

I would like to know what you all think (Only people who have experienced it first hand, since I don't know how any other one might understand what I'm talking about).

Wow, you're jerkin me right? I seriously just had this convo with my friend yesterday, i only read the first half, but thats EXACTLY what i think precog dreaming is. In fact, what our brains do however, (this is a scientists theory) that when our brain sees things in our every day life, our brain puts things together, subconciously, creates it in a dream and sends it to you. The reason why your dreams are dead set accurate, is because, in reality, its like receiving a blank check. You have a basic idea of whos sending it and who its meant for, but the price itself could be anything. Lets say you have a dream about a test, and you see all the questions and answers perfectly clearly, But when you wake up, you only have a faint rememberance. At school, you have a test, and you look at it and go, "OMG!! I HAD THIS EXACTLY IN A DREAM", infact, no you didnt, your brain put together the fact that you would have a test soon since you were nearing an end of a unit, you had a blank dream of that room and test, but the test sheet itself was probably just random squigglys, until eventually, once you saw it for real, your brain plugs it in, rehands it to you and says "heres the final draft"

My theory

[brandonslau]

snowind said:

Kind of, It's something different from precognitive dreaming.

It's when you don't have a precognitive dream, but your mind makes you think you did, even when it was just plain precognition, but since sometimes the mind doesn't know how to explain it, it makes you think you dreamt that when in fact you didn't.

Do I make my self clearer now?

Yeah. you should modify your post and put that in because I can see I was totally confused.

[elimoon19]

snowind, your brainstorm about that, is very necessary and it could apply to what we are experiencing...
it doesn't have to be dreams.
when we have feelings, snapshots.. or whatever about the future..
we only feel it in a later time when we were actually in the situation.


"It's information that we just got and since our brain can't tell us how that information appeared we automaticly associate it with dreaming."


probably it has something to do with the brain. The brain did not register too quickly...
and only when the eye sees the exact or similar event, it initiates the "RECALL" button.

but i do get what you mean.


but lets dig deeper...






if the dream is a future prediction, why did we realised it only when we are minutes or seconds
away from the event?
a future prediction has a significance and a purpose.
if we are not meant to change it, why did the vision come to us in the first place?
because having only to recall only several seconds from the event will sure not change
anything.
ah, thats what we should actually try and think about...

you see, like other precognitive occurences, dreams could also tell messages, i believed.
future prediction, yes, it came true. but i couldn't change it, and why?





haha, just a thought. thanks for sharing really.
=D

[snowind]

elimoon19 said:

snowind, your brainstorm about that, is very necessary and it could apply to what we are experiencing...
it doesn't have to be dreams.
when we have feelings, snapshots.. or whatever about the future..
we only feel it in a later time when we were actually in the situation.


"It's information that we just got and since our brain can't tell us how that information appeared we automaticly associate it with dreaming."


probably it has something to do with the brain. The brain did not register too quickly...
and only when the eye sees the exact or similar event, it initiates the "RECALL" button.

but i do get what you mean.


but lets dig deeper...






if the dream is a future prediction, why did we realised it only when we are minutes or seconds
away from the event?
a future prediction has a significance and a purpose.
if we are not meant to change it, why did the vision come to us in the first place?
because having only to recall only several seconds from the event will sure not change
anything.
ah, thats what we should actually try and think about...

you see, like other precognitive occurences, dreams could also tell messages, i believed.
future prediction, yes, it came true. but i couldn't change it, and why?





haha, just a thought. thanks for sharing really.
=D

No thank you for your comment, yes, I've always wondered why some precognition can't be changed, I've come to the conclusion that we're only meant to be informed about it... know what will happen, and some other times we can change it, but what decides whether we can change it or not? That's the real mistery, there's no way we could tell...

Because even if you remember only seconds in advance you can change it, I've done in the past, but there are times that even when you know what's going to happen with minutes or hours of anticipation you can't change it.

That's always going to be the real mistery of precognitions to me...

[ismavatar]

There's several things you can do about precogs that are imminent. We oftentimes call these Prophecies.

First and foremost, you can prepare. Suppose for a moment, hypothetically, if we were living in medieval times, and you had a premonition that someone was going to attack your castle, and you were going to win. Well, you can just wait for it to happen and then fight it alone, in which case it'd be very time consuming and difficult, or you could prepare your armies and your allies and defeat the opponent with little to no trouble.

Secondly, you can fill the gaps. Oftentimes prophecies are very vague in some aspects, but very clear in others. Take my hypothetical example above again. It does not state whether you will fight in the battle or not, and it does not state where you will be during the battle. So then you can fill in the gaps by deciding to hide in a corner, or you can go out and beat the crap out of everybody, or you can do something totally random and still win.

And finally, and probably most importantly, it makes the future more predictable, so you can plan around it. If someone asks you out on a date on thursday, rather than saying Yes and getting interrupted by said war and not showing up, you can instead say "No, sorry, I've got a war to fight on that day. Friday looks good, though."


Ultimately what it comes down to is your outlook on it. A lot of people think it'd be really cool to have prophecies and to know what the future holds. And then a lot of prophets get prophecies and they're like "darnit... I didn't want to know that." After all, a lot of people hate prophets because they're all doom-and-gloom (and right).

[Mat Ethers]

yes well this is possible and many times is the case. but when I have a map I've drawn of a place (or even if it's in my head) and I can navigate it even though I've never been there, is really the only time I truly believe I've precogged other times I think that it may well just be a trick of the mind.