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Post by snowind on Jan 19, 2008 4:27:34 GMT -5
There's several things you can do about precogs that are imminent. We oftentimes call these Prophecies. First and foremost, you can prepare. Suppose for a moment, hypothetically, if we were living in medieval times, and you had a premonition that someone was going to attack your castle, and you were going to win. Well, you can just wait for it to happen and then fight it alone, in which case it'd be very time consuming and difficult, or you could prepare your armies and your allies and defeat the opponent with little to no trouble. Secondly, you can fill the gaps. Oftentimes prophecies are very vague in some aspects, but very clear in others. Take my hypothetical example above again. It does not state whether you will fight in the battle or not, and it does not state where you will be during the battle. So then you can fill in the gaps by deciding to hide in a corner, or you can go out and beat the crap out of everybody, or you can do something totally random and still win. And finally, and probably most importantly, it makes the future more predictable, so you can plan around it. If someone asks you out on a date on thursday, rather than saying Yes and getting interrupted by said war and not showing up, you can instead say "No, sorry, I've got a war to fight on that day. Friday looks good, though." Ultimately what it comes down to is your outlook on it. A lot of people think it'd be really cool to have prophecies and to know what the future holds. And then a lot of prophets get prophecies and they're like "darnit... I didn't want to know that." After all, a lot of people hate prophets because they're all doom-and-gloom (and right). This is all true, I know, but think about precogs that you remember only seconds before they happen... or precogs you have seconds before the event happens... Sometimes in those 5 seconds... You can hit the break of a car if the precog showed you crashing, but sometimes even if you hit the break you still crash... That's my point... Why there are precogs we can't do anything about and some we can do something about it... What decides whether or not we have a choice? |
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Post by ismavatar on Jan 21, 2008 1:45:46 GMT -5
Why does it snow when you want it to, and snow when you don't want it to? Because your personal opinion does not influence the flow of nature. It's going to flow whether you want it to or not, so take advantage of the ones you can, and for the rest, enjoy the free show.
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Post by snowind on Jan 22, 2008 1:19:12 GMT -5
yeah, I know but there's a reason for snow... An explanation, I just hope someday I'll know the explanation to some of this stuff, because well, I enjoy discovering misteries, and I'm sure that even if I know someday there will be a lot of other things which I won't be able to explain.
But well, in the mean time I'll let nature continue it's course.
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Post by Mat Ethers on Jan 22, 2008 3:42:52 GMT -5
Well I believe that the future (or past, but let's not get into that it gets confusing when I try to explain it) is not constant it forever changes. Even Nostradamus point's to that fact in a lot of his predictions, especially in his lost book (which may or may not be his before that gets argued). It's just some predictions leave the blanks and you fill them like the precog (didn't show but,) predicted. Hence it gives the illusion of not being able to do anything about it.
Taking a quote from the movie next "Here's the thing about the future. Every time you look at, it changes, because you looked at it, and that changes everything else."
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Post by ismavatar on Jan 22, 2008 10:10:58 GMT -5
Again with the Nostradamus!
Anyways, regarding your post:
What is it about mysteries that are so fascinating? Is it the answer? No. It's the chase. It is the very process of being in pursuit of the answer. Thus, we should cherish questions - and more questions - because they are an opportunity to pursue. The philosopher Socrates noticed this and used it to get common people interested in philosophy. He said "The life unquestioned is not worth living." Thus why you may frequently hear me say 2 things:
1) Enter with 1 question, leave with 10. Don't enter with 1 question and leave with that same question, or worse yet, none.
2) Question. Question everything; question others, but most importantly, question yourself and your beliefs. And when you do come to an answer, question the answer.
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Post by snowind on Jan 23, 2008 1:09:11 GMT -5
Again with the Nostradamus! Anyways, regarding your post: What is it about mysteries that are so fascinating? Is it the answer? No. It's the chase. It is the very process of being in pursuit of the answer. Thus, we should cherish questions - and more questions - because they are an opportunity to pursue. The philosopher Socrates noticed this and used it to get common people interested in philosophy. He said "The life unquestioned is not worth living." Thus why you may frequently hear me say 2 things: 1) Enter with 1 question, leave with 10. Don't enter with 1 question and leave with that same question, or worse yet, none. 2) Question. Question everything; question others, but most importantly, question yourself and your beliefs. And when you do come to an answer, question the answer. Oh yeah I love the chase... And I love enigmas... Life would be boring if we knew everything, even though some people claim to know alot of things, there are few people I consider fluff free in this forum, and one of them is you Ismavatar, you always have a good fluff free answer. You have my respect from that... Psychic abilities have always been a big mistery for me, specially precognition, and the more I learn about it the more I realize I know little. Of course that the future is always in constant change and that there are always posible futures for every choice you chose to make, but I also believe in destiny. Destiny in the final outcome... no matter which choice you make, the end (one from millions of possible ends) is meant to be. Because after all that's the end that happened, so whether you liked it or not it happened. So Precognition has always been a great mistery to me, and I'm sure to many of you because, there's something out there that guides us to that final outcome... Of course our minds can percieve a time stream, but why are we percieving it, and why that time stream, because even the smallest of unsignificant precogs, just for the fact that you realize that you can see the future changes your perspective and changes who you are... There are many things out there I don't know know, some I would like to know but some I prefer a mistery, but only time will say what happens. |
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Post by Mat Ethers on Jan 23, 2008 2:32:52 GMT -5
Again with the Nostradamus! Anyways, regarding your post: What is it about mysteries that are so fascinating? Is it the answer? No. It's the chase. It is the very process of being in pursuit of the answer. Thus, we should cherish questions - and more questions - because they are an opportunity to pursue. The philosopher Socrates noticed this and used it to get common people interested in philosophy. He said "The life unquestioned is not worth living." Thus why you may frequently hear me say 2 things: 1) Enter with 1 question, leave with 10. Don't enter with 1 question and leave with that same question, or worse yet, none. 2) Question. Question everything; question others, but most importantly, question yourself and your beliefs. And when you do come to an answer, question the answer. The thrill of the chase of course it is. But would the chase thrill you as much if you knew that at the end there would be nothing? Of course not the thrill and the chase would be pointless without one another. But other than that I totally agree with the question everything. A little to much though I question everything at every step of the process, I'm a bit of a procrastinator, but when I want things done I do it... anyway I am getting of topic here. (RE: Nostradamus, sorry I just finished watching History channel (It's prophesies week.) |
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Post by ismavatar on Jan 23, 2008 21:53:37 GMT -5
Frankly it's not considered a chase if there is nothing to chase. It's just running. Of course, running could still be thrilling, but it's better when you're chasing something.
Now of course I have to question how you "know" that there is nothing at the end? How can you be certain? You've overlooked my common saying number 2: Question yourself. And when you do come to an answer, question the answer.
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Post by Mat Ethers on Jan 24, 2008 0:29:10 GMT -5
Touche.
Well I've go no answer to that one so I'll have to give it to you. Very right.
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Post by Kreigh on Feb 24, 2008 19:40:33 GMT -5
I've had precog quite a few times (random and no controll) But the majority of the time they were dreams I had when I was a kid. It feels like De ja vu most of the time, but once i recognize something i know it's from a dream. I've been running into things I saw in my dreams a lot lately, is that good ?
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Post by snowind on Feb 24, 2008 21:18:13 GMT -5
It's not that if it's right or wrong, it's about what I said in the first post. Just a question I'm interested though, are you absolutely positive it was a dream or your brain associates those Deja Vu to a dream?
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Post by Kreigh on Feb 25, 2008 1:55:16 GMT -5
No, they were dreams originally. I know this because when I was younger I had a dream I was in the kitchen sliding a bullet across the table. About a week or two later it happened. It was funny actually. I realized what my dream was, and I repeated what was in my dream.
It was like I had to.
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Post by ismavatar on Feb 25, 2008 12:04:14 GMT -5
when stuff like that happens, it tends to annoy me - so I get back at it by doing something completely different and unexpected. Like in your example, if I dreamed that I slid a bullet across a table, and I came across a bullet sitting on a table in real life, I'd just pick up the bullet and place it carefully on the other side of the table, just to screw with my deja vous!
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