Real

[Dumplins]

Can you Define whats Real or Reality

whats real whats fake

[Liz]

Nobody can give a concrete definition of "reality" or "fantasy" because everybody's is different.

For most people, having supernatural powers/gifts is just something you see in the movies/read in books/watch on "Heroes". But for US, it's very real. What we may call reality (and every day life) others may call pure, impossible fantasy.

[stolide]

Yes, "reality", or as I will refer to it as total reality, is the collective of all individual realties or perceptions. Everyones mind processes information differently thus there is a different reality for everything the can sense its enviroment. Total reality is the difference of all individual realities. For example if there were only two subjects, Lets say they both could perceive only a flower, one says the petals are red, the other blue. The total reality would be that there is a flower with petals.

Sorry if that was hard to understand, that is how I view reality. So this would mean I think psi is real but it is not included in reality.

[leethal]

For me, reality exists. The things that change are our understanding of it.

Reality is the world, is the universe, it's even us.

We experience reality and understand it/interpret it the way we do, because we're who we are.

[daevl]

stolide said:

Yes, "reality", or as I will refer to it as total reality, is the collective of all individual realties or perceptions. Everyones mind processes information differently thus there is a different reality for everything the can sense its enviroment. Total reality is the difference of all individual realities. For example if there were only two subjects, Lets say they both could perceive only a flower, one says the petals are red, the other blue. The total reality would be that there is a flower with petals.

Sorry if that was hard to understand, that is how I view reality. So this would mean I think psi is real but it is not included in reality.

Have you included people who live in their own worlds and see things in a way that makes it easier for them to handle due to mental disorders in there. I think if you did you would find that there is NO reality.

[stolide]

Yes, I have. In my opinion there would be few total truths, but some. For example, you would find that they think that people exist, or that there are planets. Something like that. there is very little that is real. Spending to much time worrying about isn't very usefull though...

[Dumplins]

I live in my own world I view the world differently hard to explain,but yeah I make whats real and not real for example.I bring a psi to my reality but to others they would be like "no thats fake". Sorry I'm not good at saying things I'm not that good with english.

[xpwarrior3]

Daevl and stolide make very good arguements. I for one believe that there is a reality and the way stolide defined it matches the way I would define it.. just not as thought out (because I really don't care.. simply because the most important reality(ies) is my own and that of the few close people around me). Daevl also makes a good point, but I'll have to disagree with that (the post, not you Daevl, you're cool).

My reason for disagreeing is because of that one statement you made... mental disorders. I don't know much about mental disorders or many things regarding science, so if I'm wrong, please correct me. Now.. if I'm correct in this, then people with mental disorders, incapable of perceiving the reality we all collectively perceive would not be a just cause for saying that there is no reality. Simply because (if you think through it) we are part of their reality and they are part of ours. They contribute to our reality and we contribute to theirs. Granted that they may not see/know all the "total truths" that we all may see/know, their existence alone stands as a total truth. Each individual can witness to their existence if they were to meet said individual. So there is a reality. Perceptions and experiences differ causing varations in reality, but there is a total reality and best explained by the definition that stolide gave.

[leethal]

^Now what i think is. There is a bird on the tree. Some people might look at the tree, some people might look at the bird, some people might look at all the people looking at something, and some people might not care. But nevertheless, independent of what those people are considering or seeing, there is both a tree and a bird. And people. That is reality. That is reality.

[daevl]

XP, I'm not sure how you meant that, but there are people who can live totally oblivious to the world around them, we would not be a part of their reality at all.


I don't know how relevant that is because I didn't really understand what you meant. Sorry.

[xpwarrior3]

Daevl, yeah they can live totally oblivious, but none-the-less they are still affected by us and the decisions we make, so we are part of their reality, whether or not they can grasp the thought of that.

I can see how you would say that. I actually felt as if I didn't get my point across well in that post.