WHAT IS 2012 (SERIOUS)

[meep]

darin said:

ismavatar said:

Or more specifically, it is the number following 2011 and preceding 2013, or in the turnary trinary counting system, preceding 2020

(may this quote become big and awesome!!)

[ismavatar]

It's ternary, not trinary. Trinary isn't a word.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_numeral_system

[lilmoe15]

psidan said:

The reason why there is so much ... disagreement over 2012 is because of all the events in the past. There has been multiple predictions on the end of the world, a new age, Christ coming again (for those who believe in Christianity), etc. etc. etc. That's the main reason why most sceptics on this topic are... well... sceptical. It's because it's been /done/ so many times in the past that it gets old after awhile.

2012 being the end of the Mayan calender may have some effect but it could also be that the Mayans did not make it so it could be an endless year counting system. Some say, or are willing to believe that Christ will come down on this date. Yet again. This may be true but due to the predictions of Christ coming in the past, many stay sceptical. Some believe that this may be the coming of a new Magical or Psionic Era. This may be more likely since as far as my knowledge goes I cannot see any date in which Magic or psionics has been practiced more. Although some might say this prediction only comes from all of the other theories on 2012.

On a more scientifical note, 2012 may be the day where global warming is at its worst. According to Al Gore, and various other predictions on the expodential growth of global warming this may be true, there could possibly be a new ice age at that time, or the current could change changing the world drastically. With the ever, expodential growth in nano technoligy, some scientists or theorists say that we could be living in a new Singular age in which humans are on par with Technoligy. They say we will by then be living in our own virtual worlds with whatever we desire to create or such. Also, virus's will be cured due to nano robots.

Anyway. This could all be mumbo jumbo and hype but 2012 does seem to be a significant age no matter how you look at it and it may have the worth to just be considered since almost all theories focus on this date while in the past it was much more scattered.

Note that if someone evr tells you that Jesus is coming a a exact date then its a lie.The bible clearly states that man will not know the day or the hour the Jesus will return.

[Barriss Offee]

I read that NASA predicts the sun will reverse its own magnetic poles during 2012, which will cause a supernova or something like that. Also, according to certain algorithims in the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid, or comet will collide with earth on December 21 of that year. Weird huh? I dodn't really believe about the Bible code, but that thing about the reversal of the sun's magnetic poles, the end of the sunspot cycle, etc. --- seems just about bad enough to be true!

[psidan]

lilmoe. I never said it was right I'm just saying some believe that to be true. I never stated in there what I believe.

[meep]

edwardbear159 said:

I read that NASA predicts the sun will reverse its own magnetic poles during 2012, which will cause a supernova or something like that. Also, according to certain algorithims in the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid, or comet will collide with earth on December 21 of that year. Weird huh? I dodn't really believe about the Bible code, but that thing about the reversal of the sun's magnetic poles, the end of the sunspot cycle, etc. --- seems just about bad enough to be true!

Supernovas aren't caused by the sun or anything. Its when a star dies, and collapses because of the weight of its own gravity. Or something to that effect. See, I listen during science! ;D

[Intrigue]

2012, to my knowledge, is a converted date from the Mayan calender. Of course, I could be getting this mixed up, but its not really significant enough to go look it up again.

Ultimately, its considered to be an important change in the universe, or some such similar event. There is no mention of actual apocalypse, chaos, or any other such paranoid tidbits from what I understand, just some globally significant occurence. For all we know, it might just be the invention of something actually better than sliced bread.

[joshiwonbrenobi]

Not sure where i heard it. But somewhere they said that the Apocalypse is not coming . That the earth is headed for a photon belt and when it passes through the photon belt every thing's vibration will be raised. Then we would be in the 5th dimension at that point.

[Intrigue]

The photon is a basic particle of electromagnetic waves-- passing through a photon belt would be hardly more than a significant increase in radiation for a period of time. The Earth is bombarded continually by radiation, both solar (from the sun) and from other cosmic sources.

Passing through a photon belt would not cease the vibration of matter. If anything, it would increase the movement of molecules-- the only way by which an electromagnetic wave usually affects matter is by imparting a degree of energy upon contact. As such, passing through a photon belt (should one exist) would result in increasing molecular activity., not lessening it.

As for a fifth dimension, I'm inclined to say that time is in and of itself a dimension all its own. If you consider it, we live in a 3D world-- meaning we exist on three planes. However, if you consider 'time' to be a plane on its own, it would partially explain a progression through a series of events we interpret as time itself. As in, moving temporal 'location' so to speak every moment we exist, much much faster than you can blink an eye. Technically, beyond the speed of light, since light too is affected by the passage of time.

For an example, consider the impact of velocity on time. The faster an object is moving, the greater discrepancy we see between time passing in comparison to a relatively stationary, identical object. As such, we see that the passage of time is, indeed, somewhat malleable-- much as our physical location is on a 3-dimensional plane.

[joshiwonbrenobi]

Very good Point Intrique.
Though i was saying it would raise the vibration.
Is that right or am i missing something?
I have always thought of dimensions as different levels of molecular vibration. Like the only reason we are experiencing the 3rd dimensional plane is directly from the rate of our molecular vibration.
Once once becomes fully enlightened their vibration would surpass anything else in this dimension and would land them in the next.

[Intrigue]

Ahhhh... Entirely my mistake then, terribly sorry about that! Misread your post. This is one of those fist-to-forehead times for me. *Goes off to edit*

In which case, yes, you are right. I have absolutely no idea where I got it that you said it would stop o.O;

As for molecular vibration, that I do not know. I would imagine it would create intense heat friction and probably vaporize anything well before any kind of transcendence.

[The Adfeng]

intrigue said:

2012, to my knowledge, is a converted date from the Mayan calender. Of course, I could be getting this mixed up, but its not really significant enough to go look it up again.

Ultimately, its considered to be an important change in the universe, or some such similar event. There is no mention of actual apocalypse, chaos, or any other such paranoid tidbits from what I understand, just some globally significant occurence. For all we know, it might just be the invention of something actually better than sliced bread.

Yes, it is from the Mayan calender. Like Mastrodomas(spellcheck?) said, it might be the end of the world. But, you make a good point. It could be the invention of something BETTER than sliced bread. We might actually all become better in psionics, and the world will accept it. We might know the truth to everything, for something might have told us. Jesus Christ could come, but it says in The Holy Bible that man will never know the exact date that Jesus would return to the earth. If that happens, then those who are Christians will leave up to Heaven, and the others will stay on Earth. I hope it is just another scientific discovery, and not something bad like an asteroid coming out of nowhere to kill us all, or something bad like Nibiru/Planet X/Planet of the Crossing.

I argued with my own science teacher with this, and we've come up with some facts. IF there was a Nibiru coming, and it came into our solar system, it would wreak havick with all of our gravitational fields. It would react to us even BEFORE we knew it was there. If it came near us, we would encounter so much force we probably would die. It would be a cataclysmic war between who's gravitational field is stronger. Of course, hopefully, the Sun would win, and it will stay there. There is said to be hurricane force winds to sweep the earth after 3 days of being stale from movement, then it will move again, with Category 5 hurricane force winds hitting the whole earth. 90% of the population will have died. But, if that's the case, we should start preparations now.

There could be a small fact that it could be moving so fast that it may not be noticeably affecting us until we see it. But, that's in the years to come. Some say Jesus will come, some say Nibiru will come, and some say an asteroid/meteor will come down and kill us all. Whatever happens, we have to die/leave some day, and I guess the time is soon. But, I just really hope nothing happens, because I do like my life, and I'd like to keep it for a while.

[ismavatar]

Nostradamus (not "Mastrodomas") said nothing of 2012. He made mention of 1999 as the end date. Nothing happened. In fact, so far none of his prophecies have been right, and his cult following is dwindling fast, with people therein believing you can just swap some letters around and replace letters if it doesn't work out right, so that the phrasing actually does work out right. Like how "Mabus" is supposed to be the antichrist. They flip the "M" upside-down to make a "with", and add a silent H on the end, and you get "with" Bush. With enough flipping and turning, you can actually make practically any word out of any other word. For example, "mabus" isn't that far from "Jesus", considering the "a" can be flipped to look like an "e".
Another prophecy was that "fire would burn in the new city at 45 degrees". People believed this to be New York City, and the twin towers. Unfortunately for them, NYC is at 40 degrees. 45 degrees is somewhere up in north canada. NYC is supposedly the closest "new" city they could find, although 5 degrees is clearly very significant.

2012, to my knowledge, is a converted date from the Mayan calender. Of course, I could be getting this mixed up, but its not really significant enough to go look it up again.

It is a date converted from the Mayan calendar, but it's an important date, because it marks the END of their calendar. The calendar is made up of Baktuns, about 400 years, or the span of a civilization. It is made up of 13 of these Baktuns (5125 years). And unlike the Gregorian calendar, they did not set it in place based on a Start date (jesus' birth for Gregorian), they actually set it in place based on an End Date, explicitly December 21, 2012, The Winter Solstice and the sun conjoining the milky way and the dark rift intersection - an event that is incredibly rare.
www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
In that link, John Major Jenkins, a scholar in Mayan studies, explains the exact astronomical significance of this date and how the Mayan religion reflected this end date, and how it translates over to the astronomy.

I argued with my own science teacher with this, and we've come up with some facts.

And your science teacher got his Doctorate from where?
That's what I thought...

[lemastusthecrate]

based on fact December 21st, 2012 is the day the Mayan calendar ends. Some people speculate that this is the day the world is supposed to end according to people who follow new age philosophy, Now i don't in anyway say this will happen if you ask me it will just be another day but i'm sure it will be bigger than Y2K and that some countries will just stop EVERYTHING on this day, while in my opinion it is just another day and nothing will happen

I simply wrote this message to further educate those who have no idea about 2012 cheerio

[onine]

There are a lot of good books by our good friends in the UK about what the Aquarian Age really is. One book is called A Magic Primer and it is written by a British Civil Servant, and is probably the most descript on the subject that I have ever seen.

Basically the Hindu believe that there are various ages of the earth in respect to the lifetime of our earth itself in the multiverse. The Aquarian Age is the Final Age. No one really knows what will happen, but it is written that a spirit will come to us and give all the information we always wanted to know; such as worm holes.

The Aquarian Age is supposedly the greatest era of the human race.

However, if you look at other religions, such as the indians native to mexico and south america, their calendar only goes up to the year 2012 after which it just stops. End of the world? Aquarian Age? Who knows. I would like to believe that a spirit will come to us and start answering our questions.

I mean, we are already getting very close to a static link between our world and the metaphysical worlds. Is it so hard to believe that the Aquarian Age is truly possible?


Something you may be capable of in the Aquarian Age is picking up your phone and dialing a number to talk to your dead great great grandfather who really has something to tell you. In this age, people forget about the laws they bind themselves to with religion, and supposedly go out seeking mystical and alternative ways of philosophy & living life.

If nothing else, the Aquarian Age is simply a picture describing mankind growing further and further away from its religious roots.