Does God Exist?

[Rippy]

cryball said:

I am christian, and I believe in god. Some reasons I choose to not to be an atheist is because, Well I was raised and brought up by my family as a christian. The Big reason though is fear. I am scared that if I don't believe or I believe in the wrong one, Ill spend eternity in non-stop fear and tourment. (Hell). I mean really. If it is all true I dont want to risk it.

As soon as I can Talk to my spirit guide that is the first thing Ill ask. Whats up with religon.

So yea, I think most people like me are in a religon because of fear.

~ Pennywise

I can deal with people being religious, and me not stepping in, but this kind of "faith" has got to be the second-worst that's out there. No offense intended, of course.
But that is very hypocritical of you..
I can understand people who are simply unsure of their religion, but when you are only attached to something out of fear, it will only hold you back from progression.

Ug, religion is so manipulative.
Anyway.

No, I believe in no god. Religion in general tends to bring only negative effects. I like to keep quiet, usually, on this issue. It's a touchy subject.

Here's the short version:

-Religious Background-

My parents are and were both Christians. In fact, everyone in my family that I know of is a Christian. I went to church for the majority of my life. I "believed" in it all, blindly, like nearly every Christian does today. I respect those who read the bible, who research it, who study before donning themselves with titles. Unfortunately, like the majority, I wasn't one of those people.
I ended up fluctuating between religions. I believed everything I read for a while, and dove into New Age studies the moment my eager mind discovered them. Though years of confusion, I ended up taking a screwed up blend of Christianity and loose Paganism and calling it my spirituality. It took many more years before I developed the skill of thinking about what I "believed".
Once I managed to aquire that, I went into a stage of pure atheism. By the time I came back to the energy-working side, my mind had evolved, becoming much more critical and loosing much of its fickleness. Taking everything as false until self-proven true, I managed to end up where I am today.
Not much farther from the beginning:
An ignorant "non-theistic pagan." As I loosely refer to myself.

[Cronus]

I am a christian, I try my hardest but at tiems it is so hard to believe.

[Broken-Mind]

I am just sort of walking a religious tightrope between Christianity and Atheism. If something jostles the tightrope enough I will fall to one side of the rope. So I guess I have a "twisted view" of Christianity with a few scientific facts thrown in to make it more believable. But I tend to stick more to the Scientific side because it makes more sense. I rarely talk about my religion if your wondering why go to wikipedia and search for World War 2.

[odbod]

There is no god. I get tired of people who say "He watched everyone. He helps them." Then why are people always in despair?

I believe there are other beings, more intelligent then us, but, they are not gods. There'll never be a god. Someone said "There has to be a god, because, there was one time, I was standing in the street, and I stepped back wards, and a car raced by, and I didn't even get myself to move back, or know a car was coming." to me the other day. I told him that there was no god helping you, it's called a spirit/guardian. And he refused to believe in spirits or guardians.

One reason I stopped beliving in a god is because of certain tellings of me from many religious people saying that spirits and ghosts are evil and/or do not exist of this earth.

[neopsychic]

Rippy, I'm with you there. I've been to church a few times, and I believed just about everything out there. Until one day, I had just stumbled upon an idea when I was a little sad. I remembered people, saying, "God will help you, he heals all, he makes things better..." I thought to my self, "No, there is only one thing that, will move things, that will make them what I see as the truth, and I've been looking at him in the mirror all my life. That is where my name comes from. NeoPsychic, the new psychic. The one that seeks to merge old ways with new thinking and forming, not a religion, but a way of life that has no definition but one thing in common. Psi is the only thing that connects my path with everyone else's at this site and other communities. It's what differs me from all others, and gives me a path that shows me power and strength.

[leethal]

odbod : saying things like "there is no god" isn't quite nice. Stating it as your oppinion is fine, but declaring it like it was true is too large a leap for anyone.

I've been meaning to ask people who AP'ed if they ever bothered to ask if there was a god, since they find spirits, someone should know, right?

And Rippy, religion isn't all bad. it's half-half. some rituals promote hygene (burrying the dead, for instance) , and they give huge support to people who feel overwhelmed by life.

[Mr.Experiment]

In my opinion, if God exists or not.
I say idc if he does or doesn't.

Worrying about it will just slow me down, it can cause anxiety, fears, etc.
Plus, why do I need to answer this question know? I will know when I die wont I.


~Jano

[Amodia]

I believe in God as a creating force. In my opinion, believing in God as a all mighty person that listen to all of our prayers, is just like believing in Santa, or the Eastern Bunny.

Everyone has right to their own opinion, that's mine.

[Boldylocks]

I used to not believe in a God until I became 16 years old and got really sick. I had to take off from school for almost a month over some wierd type of flu/virus.

Being stuck in bed, I read the Bible and some spiritual books we had (Pilgrim's Progress, the Life of Jesus Christ, etc., ) and after reading them I felt this need and desire that I wish there WAS a God, and I wish He'd help me to believe.

Then after the sickness broke, I took a shower (yikes, I must have stunk!) and I began thinking of how the shower was cleaning me on the outside, but I wanted to also be cleaned on the inside.

As soon as I thought that, I felt this beautiful Energy of Love cover me and enter me from the top of my head-- and flow all over my body along with the water coming out of the showerhead.

I left that bathtub a changed person inside. I felt no more jealousy, no more anger, bitter feelings, or any negative feeling. If anyone in my family gossiped, or complained, I felt that it wasn't a part of my new reality, and I actually felt offended at any curse, etc.
I glowed so much inside, that it showed on my face. One of my relatives thought I met the man of my dreams, because he said I looked like I was in love. (I'm the type of person that can't hide my feelings or lie, because it shows on my face.)

Eventually, that wore off as everyday life has a way of grounding you.

What I had discovered was that God showed me at 16 that He is real, but because of the laws of free will, He will not go around touching people and making things happen like what happened to me to everyone in general-- unless they really want Him in thier life-- and not because they are just curious or demand proof.)

After that I had more experiences spaced out every 5 years or so during turning points in my life. I don't feel led to discuss them all here, but if anyone wants me to share them with you, feel free to PM me, and I'll describe what happened.

The latest thing that happened to me where I heard God speak back to me was two different times. Once in the 1990's, I was sitting in my car eating a soggy hoagie sandwich and complained out loud in the car, "Jesus wouldn't eat this crap even in Naz.." but before I could get the word, Nazareth" out of my mouth, I was interrupted telepathically by Jesus with the words in my mind, "I ate worse than that".
His tone was very loving- even after my rude whining. After that I will no longer complain about the quality of food. This really convicted me.


The most recent time I heard God speak very audibly to me (I believe He speaks to us all the time in all kinds of ways , but I'm referring to very clear telepathic ways where you know it wasnt' your own thoughts)

After I did some colon cleanses, I found out I had some nasty conditions in my intestines that I didnt know I had. The colon cleanses kept getting me better, and I continued them while at the same time I started eating better -- I stopped eating any more foods with chemical additives, ate more organic fruits and veggies, --especially raw salads, and drank more water, cut out sodas, etc.

At the same time, my sister found out she had Celiac disease, so she could no longer eat any more wheat products the rest of her life. No more pizza or pies unless made with a special crust, etc.

One morning as I lay in bed, I was able to meditate and in meditation , I asked God "Why the Heck, God, Can't we eat like everyone else in the World--- Why can't I just go into a fast food restaurant and pig out on junk food like everyone else."

God actually spoke back to me during the meditation, and there is no mistaking His voice over any other spirit's voice. He said, "I never require my children to follow any discipline, but if they choose to follow that path , they will reap the rewards of that path".

Those were the EXACT words. I will never forget them. When God speaks to you, there is a type of Energy in every word He speaks that implants something alive in you.


Other times I have felt God with me was during times of being harrassed from a few creepy coworkers that are into Voodoo dolls where I work. I went to an American Indian psychic, named Willow, and asked her if I should quit my job. She told me that the Spirit indicates to her that I should continue in my job because I am learning skills from dealing with the harrassment that will become valuable to me later in my life. (Right now I am learning shielding techniques- this site is valuable for me in learning psi skills for this)

Then later our pastor (who will not give any sermon unless led by the Holy Spirit) gave a sermon that God doesnt deliver us FROM trials, but helps us THROUGH them.

Not a cooincidence as far as I'm concerned. I needed to hear that. Like I said, sometimes God speaks audibly and telepathically, sometimes He speaks through other people.

I have lots more experiences that happened to me that are so awesome, and I would love to share them. Out of respect to JediKaren, I will not share them, unless you want to PM me , and I will share what else happened to me only over Personal messages or MSN instant messengar ([e-mail]).

I do not believe in the least that God wants us to try to convert people . Every religion has truth in it that leads us back to Him in the end. I feel God does not need people to speak to others about Him. He can very well do it Himself, and often does. He just , out of generosity, allows people to act as channels for Him, because it is one way to help them grow spiritually.

I do not believe in Bible Thumping and preaching to people. I also believe that if a person never knew Christ on Earth, that doesnt mean they are going to Hell. That is religious man's idea of how they think God is like. God is totally unlike anything any priest or pastor can describe to you.

It's not the person's fault if they never knew about Jesus. God meets them at their level, and as they continue to reach spiritual maturity after they die, they become introduced to more about God that they didnt know on Earth.

When God spoke to me, I noticed that there was this very classy, CALM, and loving way he spoke, without coming off as sounding patronizing or like how adults talk to little toddlers. You can sense God's Royalty and dignity and yet there was also a Deep Down-To-Earth compassion and gentleness . Not cocky, not arrogant.

I have never met any religious person who could ever duplicate this Personality. The closest I know so far is this one pastor I know from NY who has this extreemly calm nature, and has all this Light that shines out of his eyes all the time.


Nuff said.

PM if you want me to share any more experiences, but remember that I am not about trying to convert people because I feel that in every religion, there is God and many truths you may need to hear before you can taste what else is out there.

[neopsychic]

boldylocks

You and many other people I have talked to have said that god won't talk to you if you are curious or just want him to prove himself. So does that mean the only way to see god is to have blind faith in him and he will become real? Just wandering about that, because did you ever think of other possibilities that your sudden epiphany could had resulted from? What if the god's telepathy was just a very odd thought. Just because the chance is unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen.

What about people who don't believe in god? He helps people through situations right? What about people like me and others, who have a strong will to fight what ever is in our path. To quote a good anime: Don't have faith in me, don't have faith in yourself, have faith in the you that has faith in yourself.

[Zangetsu]

I've had a kind of voice like the one you are describing in my head before, It rang in my ear more than my head. I was tired the so It may have been me just hearing things. Another good anime quote would be "You have a strong pair of legs, get up and use them." you'll get it if you think. Also what anime is that quote from.

[neopsychic]

fullmetal said:

I've had a kind of voice like the one you are describing in my head before, It rang in my ear more than my head. I was tired the so It may have been me just hearing things. Another good anime quote would be "You have a strong pair of legs, get up and use them." you'll get it if you think. Also what anime is that quote from.

That quote is from Great Teacher Onizuka I think. OMG it just sounds so familiar but I just can't place it

[Mr.Experiment]

FullMetal Alchemist

We went through this before in another topic ^^

Lol, and you Zangetsu where the one who said it was from that show.

Also, who cares if God Exists?


~Jano

[Nightshare]

I believe God exists. But I sometimes doubt Him and it keeps me up all night. Questions like if my religion is correct or if some other is. Sometimes I reject the truth that He exists. I don't know why I do, but I feel that it's not true. But no matter what, I will never doubt completely.

[Boldylocks]

neopsychic said:

boldylocks

You and many other people I have talked to have said that god won't talk to you if you are curious or just want him to prove himself. So does that mean the only way to see god is to have blind faith in him and he will become real? Just wandering about that, because did you ever think of other possibilities that your sudden epiphany could had resulted from? What if the god's telepathy was just a very odd thought. Just because the chance is unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen.

What about people who don't believe in god? He helps people through situations right? What about people like me and others, who have a strong will to fight what ever is in our path. To quote a good anime: Don't have faith in me, don't have faith in yourself, have faith in the you that has faith in yourself.

God speaks to everyone regardless if they are an athiest or not.

The very rare times I heard Him speak telepathically to me were very different from the other times I had the odd thought pop in my head, or other telepathic voice . There is a distinct Energy when God speaks telepathically. It isn't the same as other things you hear. The only way I can express what I'm referring to is that every word you hear from Him has a creative energy to it. The other thoughts are just random thoughts, or maybe even other voices from someone else speaking. You can tell them apart definitely.

In my case I needed to hear Him speak that way because I am the type of person that is not a very good listener, and I tend to have a cluttered mind. Maybe that was the only way He could reach me.

I truly believe God helps people regardless if they believe in Him or not. I know because in looking back, I recall events that were no cooincidence , that show me He was helping me when I totally did not believe in Him whatsoever.

As for having a strong will. Sometimes you need to be a fighter and take things by force. Sometimes you have to fight Yourself too because often, we are our own biggest enemy to ourselves.

Even with disease, I believe the ones that fair better than others are the ones that have a fighting attitude and dont accept what the doctor tells them. Even using visualization techniques to kick the Hell out of cancer cells, or flu germs.

There are situations where a person also has to use strength to control themselves too and to be quiet in other situations. You have to pick your battles.

Most of the times I find I have to quiet myself down and control fighting impulses over something, and then other times I have to get myself into gear and not put up with something.