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Post by phlatline on Jan 19, 2008 1:34:00 GMT -5
Sane and insane is disrespectful to people with mental illness. Mine is no less or more disrespectful. Why bother with the euphimisms?
Besides, I recall seeing dozens of anti-fluff arguments on this forum. Leave the werewolf/vampire faggotry 3rd grade role play on the rest of the internet's trash websites. It is for the birds.
And do not pretend I care whether you think of me a jerk or fool.
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Post by Fearn on Jan 19, 2008 2:03:20 GMT -5
Being a mod, I suppose I can't really jump in the argument, however...
Phlatline please don't disrespect people by calling them stupid. Otherkin are a large group of people from many walks of life. Please don't use terms like 'faggotry' they can be very offensive to some groups.
Dash, please don't use personal insults. Just wait for a mod to get here, or alert a mod, you don't have to do it yourself.
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Post by phlatline on Jan 19, 2008 4:10:47 GMT -5
Meh. Fair enough. I suppose I can just go with the original two alternatives posed by the title of the thread. If you think you are an "otherkin" you are insane, since I am not allowed to call you stupid.  |
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Post by JediKaren on Jan 19, 2008 12:13:57 GMT -5
Please do as the mods says and behave because I do care and my caring counts a lot more than your non caring.
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Post by dash on Jan 19, 2008 12:30:28 GMT -5
i have to go crying to a mod every time i want to defend someone?
he told us what he thinks, i told him what i think,
..but.. if you really want me stop jumping in like that i will..
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Post by Brilenus on Jan 19, 2008 15:33:55 GMT -5
I believe that if you want to say that something IS one way or the other, you should do experiments on it to verify that your point is correct. I can not prove either way, but I have done experiments on this in the past.
If you get to where you can scan the soul of someone, even at a very basic level, you will find that they are often similar to others in several ways. People who come from the same family are partially similar, people from the same soul-line are similar in many ways. Those who are fragments from the same soul farther up the lines are incredibly similar. People with similar thought processes are similar, as are people who claim to be the same species of otherkin.
Thus, there are any number of possibilities. I have noticed that the similarities that I have seen could be either due to otherkin existing and being true, or simply that those people think the same way, thus creating the same feeling of similarity.
Always remember to experiment and find the truth, even if it is not what you want to hear.
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shaamansu
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Life is a Dance, we need only follow the Rhythm
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Post by shaamansu on Jan 19, 2008 16:42:04 GMT -5
Well, from an animistic standpoint, one does usually have Spirit animal guides, and/or totems...One can also visualize becoming one of their totems/spirit guides. Not all paths do. As I have posted..I fly with my hawk...see through his eyes. I also fly with my Owl on occasions. It is possible to feel like you are are a mythological creature, dragons, etc....in which case, perhaps you shoud re-think your beliefs and paths. Remember...each thing we learn is just a stepping stone to learn another. Don't become complacent. Your gifts are for a reason. Now, I love vampire books, werepersons..etc.... . Good reading. but, at the same time, I really don't discount anything...no matter what kind of opinions anyone offers. After all...who really knows for sure.....hmmmm...food for thot.  |
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Post by zedd on Jan 19, 2008 19:35:13 GMT -5
I personally do not believe in otherkin. I believe that faeries and such exist but I do not believe that they are people, or that anyone can be anything but a person. faeries and such are simply another kind of entity, not a human that is part faerie.
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Post by meep on Jan 19, 2008 22:19:47 GMT -5
If you get to where you can scan the soul of someone, even at a very basic level, you will find that they are often similar to others in several ways. People who come from the same family are partially similar, people from the same soul-line are similar in many ways. Those who are fragments from the same soul farther up the lines are incredibly similar. People with similar thought processes are similar, as are people who claim to be the same species of otherkin. True, but say those relatives are close to their relatives, who are human, right? But for otherkin, they say that they are related to animals/ whatnot. :S (EDIT: DIE QUOTES DIE!!!! D:) |
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Post by Brilenus on Jan 19, 2008 22:25:38 GMT -5
True, but a soul can look similar in many different areas, each area seems to be for different things. None are exactly the same, but they can look somewhat alike. Not enough for a solid "This is how it is" but definitely enough to say "It is possible for it to be either way" for me.
(You messed up on the quote, needs a [/ on it.)
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onine
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Post by onine on Jan 19, 2008 22:30:18 GMT -5
My will is strong enough to dominate demons, yet you would call me stupid? I do not think myself an Otherkin. In fact, this is the first time I've heard of anything so preposterous. The fact is that there are many facets of reality, and reality itself is what your Observer perceives. I am blind to certain things, it is a curse, but with eyes I can see. Can you see my eyes? Can I? A veil is a delicate thing. My reality is truly monstrous, and if that makes me insane... then you better stay well away from me. I do not gnaw at your leg so do not gnaw at mine.
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Post by phlatline on Jan 20, 2008 1:28:44 GMT -5
Hrm. I suppose I merely thought this thread would have been shunned from existence by means of a popular outcry. Instead it was welcomed with open arms. This irks me. Especially since the partial goal of psionics is to associate itself with science. This is not science my friends.(I also believe I read something in a sticky on this board about proof.)
A few of you are very humble and I have the utmost respect for those of you who have it coming. This is why I was as nice as I was. However, do not think I will bend over for mods and shamefully hide my opinion simply because they were awarded the oh so high internet status of being chosen to Nazi a forum.
And a for your info final note- You have to earn respect. It is not something that can be handed out by rules.
Anywayz, can not win them all.
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Post by JediKaren on Jan 20, 2008 1:47:46 GMT -5
ok my opinion:
I do not believe in otherkin, nor think any one is a otherkin, but I can understand the logic of it all too well. For years, not just childhood, but even in my later teens I privately thought there was some cat essence in me. Something along the lines that I was part cat. I now believe growing up with cats, loving them to death and them loving me equally, an incredible imagination, and natural strong empathy were the reasons for that feeling. I also believe we have a secret love for the impossible and the make believe. We all want to be animals. If you think about it, we are animals, and if you believe in evolution, we came from other animals. Thus, we are all connected.
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onine
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Post by onine on Jan 20, 2008 2:43:50 GMT -5
Perhaps our desire to be more in tune with the primal parts of our brain is because of the distance we have, being those more in tune with things than others, when compared to the rest of the world.
I know I am walking a fine line here but I would like to say that perhaps the rule of chaos comes into play when it comes to being what we are? -Everything is allowed, nothing is forbidden-
what are the limits to being psionic? We each have our certainties, and we each have our doubts as to what we each can do, and cannot do. Some of us claim to be very telepathic and control, to a great extent, abilities that most old men could not master after spending a whole life in preparation.
Who is wrong? Who is right? None are wrong. None are right. Just a few years ago "science" told us we were all crazy. You would do well to keep your individuality in tact my friends. Anyone, and anything, that takes away any form of expression, in exchange for belief, is a tyrant, and a coward.
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Post by spilledchemicals on Jan 20, 2008 14:04:38 GMT -5
I don't know much about the souls of people, that subject is better left to people who have spent their time studying them. I do know about energy bodies, the way they are expressed, and controlled.
In my preliminary study of my own energy body, I discovered a peculiarity, my energy body had wings attached to the shoulder blades. I abhorred this discovery, for if this were true, then I would be otherkin, and everything I had studied to that point hated the notion of otherkin.
I had to experiment though, to prove weather or not my energy body was naturally different, or if it were something of my own, subconscious, creation. The tests at first were simple scanning tests, me willing the wings to disappear, and scanning to see if they did, this was always inconclusive, so I decided a drastic test was in order.
My tests with the rest of my energy body showed that if damaged, the body would regrow and repair itself, even with little guidance. So I tore off my wings, and left them alone. If it were just a bit of energy, it would not repair itself, but as I sensed the movements of my energy, I felt my energy slowly moving, and focusing itself on my wings. The movements were exactly the same as if I had torn off and arm, but instead of traveling to my arm, it went to the wings. The results showed that the wings on my back were a part of my energy body.
Another fact troubling to me was that when I would focus energy to my hands, the energy body there seemed to morph, into something more resembling a claw. With mental effort, I can keep my hands energy form to remain a hand, but it seems to naturally turn into a claw when I stop focusing on its shape. The unsettling thing is that my right hand is the only one which exhibits this trait. My left hand retains its form, no matter how much energy I push into it.
Does this prove that there are otherkin? Certainly not. It only proves that my energy body is naturally slightly different than anyone else I know. There is also the possibility that if I am different, then others may be different as well.
I didn't, and still don't, want to be otherkin, for it could possibly discredit everything I have done. I would be hated for feeling that something is true, which others don't want to be, or just don't believe to be true.
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