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Post by leethal on Apr 7, 2007 13:11:58 GMT -5
How are you supposed to be able to "see" something away from you? Is it a long-range astral projection, where you coordinate psi in your form to another place and percept the psi in that place? Cause i can't think of souls and spirits. just psi is enough for me. Is spirituality a requirement for psi control?
please excuse this humble newbie
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Post by JediKaren on Apr 7, 2007 14:06:52 GMT -5
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Post by Aiden on Apr 8, 2007 17:11:20 GMT -5
Remote Viewing is a displacement of the mind's eye. Most subjects are not able to "See" clearly as if it were right in front of them, in many cases there are hints and vague images.
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Post by zbuksi on Apr 8, 2007 18:22:47 GMT -5
Or, you can feel is there presence of water, people, earth, wood, iron, is it in round shapes, sqare shapes, triangles, sometimes even a smell (so i heard)
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Post by Aiden on Apr 9, 2007 13:37:02 GMT -5
That's Clairvoyancy, or scrying... Not Remote Viewing.
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Post by zbuksi on Apr 12, 2007 17:10:09 GMT -5
Remote viewing- to see in larger distances, know what is there even if you cant phisicaly sence it. Clairvoyance (fran. clair- pure, clean; voyance-vision) To percieve something vithout using your 5 sences. That includes visions, feelings etc. But the difference is that clairvision is in use in seeing hiden things, forgoten things, finding lost, seeing truth and finding targeted person/area and RV is focused on seeing in large distances, seeing or feeling targeted things on certain area or close to someone.
Clairvoyance could be used to feel/know where something is and RV to see it. Clairvoyance is ability to see truth (clear, without lies) so you could actually know what is someone thinking/feeling about you.
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Post by Aiden on Apr 15, 2007 12:23:34 GMT -5
Correct, which is what I said. You stated you could use RV to feel the presence of water, etc. and it's shapes, etc. Which is Scrying, and Clairvoyancy is not just seeing or feeling truth. There are different subclasses of Clairvoyancy which support a different "sense". But through that, the circumstance you stated would remain to be Scrying (Finding water, iron, etc.) and Clairvoyancy (The sensign of the shape, color, etc.)
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Post by zbuksi on Apr 15, 2007 12:43:24 GMT -5
-"Clear Seeing" - the ability to psychically obtain visions and hence supposedly reliable information. The actual method used might be similar to Astral Projection, or the seer may experience an array of mental images without any sensation of being out of the body (eg Skrying). Clairvoyance is used by numerous magical orders in order to investigate, for example, magical symbols, or to supposedly contact the dead (Clairaudience - see Mediumship), or to view real-life locations on a long distance ("Remote Viewing").
-Clairvoyance is the ability to know something that is currently taking place without reliance on any of your five senses to obtain that knowledge (ESP-extra sensory perception). For example, sometimes an individual will suddenly see in their mind's eye an event that is currently transpiring; only later will they get confirmation that what they envisioned truly happened. At other times, clairvoyants will not see the whole picture but will simply sense that something happened. Mostly, clairvoyance is the ability to get information about things: "mindless objects."
This is just to put it in one place. There will be more when I collect all informations needed for this.
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