AP probs

[lola]

Hi-I have yet to have a fully conscious projection,as I can`t seem to get past the split stage.
I am getting to the paralysed stage,when I cannot move myself at all.Then I am feeling my astral arms &/or legs floating & moving,but I cannot fully split from this stage.

I have , at times felt like I have been pinned down at the shoulders,so haven`t progressed further than this.What should I do, as shielding or protection during or before AP attempts,to help me get further than this?

Also, lately(probably for the last few months now)- I have been noticing that I can see through closed eyelids,but this has been happening at the very start of my meditation & relaxation excersizes-& I know I am not asleep yet.It doesn`t happen every time though.This can happen within the first few minutes of the start of my AP practises & I haven`t had time to even fully relax my body yet,or fall asleep for that matter.I can see everything that is ahead of me ,in my field of vision-but I have my eyes closed still.
I couldn`t possibly have split yet though,as this can happen almost straight away & I`m sure that my mind has not gotten down to a deep(slow enough) pattern yet.What is it-gamma level or something it`s called(after alpha & beta).
It sometimes happens, when I am starting to see the hypnogogic images begin to appear-but at these times,I have probably gotten to a deep enough meditation state.Still can`t get further than split stage though...Any advice?Thanks,Lola

[zbuksi]

Looking through eyelids is third eye/auravision... And I readed somewhere that it is ok to try to move your shoulder (left or right? I think it doesent matter). To make break from fisical body. Hm... better find links on Ap, you have somevhere on Psiworld links that have various vays/techniques for Ap. Good luck!

[lola]

Hi Zbuksi-
Haven`t heard of auravision,but just went & had a bit of a read about it-Sounds like I have been practising this(at the start of meditations occasionally,without realising thats what I was doing.Thanks for that.
I will try to move my shoulder/s next time this happens(during split stage)-but once I get the floaty thing happening-I just keep finding that my shoulders almost feel like they`re pinned down-like there is pressure on the tops of shoulders,which doesn`t allow me to get up from there.
Thanks again-
Lola

[zbuksi]

Hm...
Try to find links... Or I will find them. There you will find various vays to split.

Just to modify this::
groups.msn.com/HigherVibrations/30waystoachieveastralprojection.msnw
Here you have about 50 various aproaches to AP.
Have a nice time, and if you need anything PM me or contact me over MSN