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Post by creeper on Jun 24, 2007 12:36:14 GMT -5
hey people whats really good. well i have not aped and it is my own fault im an on and off kind of person when i really try i get the vibriations and a feeling that im gonna leave but then random thoughts emerge and i start talking to myself in my brain. I know i need to be more consistent and maybe these things wil go away but i was wandering if any member can help. Thank you all
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Post by junior on Jun 25, 2007 22:01:42 GMT -5
At the point when you feel the vibes, you need to try and relax the physical body as much as possible. It don't matter much of what's going on in the conscience because your goal is to let the physical body sleep while keeping your conscious mind awake. That's the hard part for most people. When I personally get the vibes, I relax myself and then usually a few minutes later Sleep Paralysis comes over me. When Sleep Paralysis happens, you will be fully conscious but not able to move your physical body because it is now asleep. This is the delta state, and the perfect time to separate. I usually spontaneously float into the air at this point and then I make my journey from there. If it doesn't happen spontaneously then try imagining your conscience on the ceiling or away from the physical body and see if that helps you separate.
Good Luck =)
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Post by creeper on Jun 26, 2007 12:17:29 GMT -5
so basically what your saying is my mind can be active but my body just needs to be asleep. junior i was wondering what do you do when you ap
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Post by junior on Jun 26, 2007 13:15:24 GMT -5
Yes, exactly. My conscience rambling thoughts have never hampered my seperation. Nor has it affected my sleep. Even on a normal night your thoughts just carry over to the dream world and never stop but never affected your physical body's rest. The key goal is keep the conscience conscious. By doing this you'll be lucid during the time you project. Here lately on my journeys I've been in search of a spirit guide. It's been a while since I actually met another entity on the astral plane. When I first started projecting I met entities all the time was fearful of it because some were not so pleasant. So I created a vibe that disallowed me to perceive the presence of another entity. Since then, for years all I done was fly around and just explore (basically having fun doing a bunch of nothing ) but now I'm seeking answers of what's the purpose of all this. Perhaps meet a guide that will lead me to a spirit temple and or reach a higher plane. Only recently I have removed the vibe so I can encounter other entities because I feel I am experienced enough to encounter another being now. And I have better understanding of how to protect myself if I met a negative entity. But now that I think about it, most negative entities exist in the lower planes (a place where most astral projectors don't end up). I've been getting messages through dreams, I think maybe someone is trying to give me a message. I want to meet whoever it is in the astral plane, in hopes it's some sort of guide.
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Post by creeper on Jun 27, 2007 2:42:43 GMT -5
junior your so amazing the information you gave me helped me so much all this time i have been training to get my mind to sleep and keep my body awake. my results improved when i felt the vibriations i began to relax the body even more and my muscle and body began to become heavy. then my body started to become light and i felt like i was about to float every time i imagined myself on the ceiling unfortunately my mum woke me out of my trance but i felt really tired and my muscle feel still feel heavy. junior i feel as if im so and its because of your knowledge thank you.
also how do you know when you have seperted i mean to you just opened yours eyes and see yourself on the ceiling
also mate i hope you find your guide
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Post by junior on Jun 27, 2007 10:31:52 GMT -5
Good job, you're getting there. I'd say a few more attempts without any disturbances you'll successfully seperate. When you seperate you'll know it because you are fully conscious of it. Sometimes you're able to see through the eyelids of your physical body just before you seperate. But keep in mind you're not seeing with your physical eyes, but with your mind's eye. On the contrary, even once you've successfully seperated you still may not have vision at first. During my initial years of Astral Projecting I'd leave my body and not have any sight at all, nor could I control my astral body very well. I'd spontaneously float in one direction and just keep going, with no vision at all lol. Usually up through the roof and onto the top of the house somewhere and then I'd pop back into my physical body. But these things are perfectly normal for a beginner. You'll see once you make it out of your body, there's no doubts about it that you're not in your physical body nor in a dream state. More than likely your first OBE will be very short, but with enough times of seperation they'll gradually get longer. Just keep at it though, you're getting very close. You'll be out of body before you know it.
Good Luck =)
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Post by creeper on Jun 27, 2007 12:31:01 GMT -5
thanks mate ill let you know when when i ap
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Post by The Adfeng on Jul 9, 2007 0:36:22 GMT -5
Junior, i hope you find your guide. I need to find my guide when i finally learn now to AP, i just can't do it now. I feel the vibes, and get to the part where i'm almost out, but i get distracted.
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