Is it dangerous?

[leanne07]

Is it? Coz I've heard that if you leave your body there is a chance of another soul could take over your body and you would never be able to get it back.

Also, what is the difference between Astral Projecting and having an O.B.E?







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[shaolinwutang]

I have learned the chances of a spirit taking over you while aping is equal to when you are not, so nothing to worry about.

the difference between AP and OBE is while APing you leave your body to another plane of existance, and while OBEing you stay in this plane of existance, able to see yourself and the rest of the world as an outsider.

[leanne07]

Sorry, I still don't quite understand.
Could you expand on this a bit more for me please??










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[Rippy]

No, as far as I know, that's never actually happened and is most likely not possible. See, no matter what "body" you're most focused on, your consciousness still occupies each of your unlimited "bodies" at all times. Therefore, there is no way that another entity could enter your physical body more easily when you're astral projecting than when you're not. You're still in it, technically.

An OBE is usually classified as projecting yourself into the energy level that is nearest to that of the physical world. Of course, this isn't the actual physical world-- it's more of a reflection of the physical. Therefore, while you may be projecting into an area that looks like your room, things may be missing or rearranged.

Astral projection is when you project yourself into the astral worlds, rather than the physical.

Edit: You spelled peace wrong in your siggy, btw. ^^;

[leanne07]

Thanks, now corrected

So, if I wanted to project myself to somewhere else in my house, is that an OBE??
Also, I take it no one can see us in both Astral Projection and OBE form?






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[Darin Rosewood]

1.) Impossible for anything to possess you unless you let 'em. It's also impossible to get stuck outside your body. It's much harder to stay out than to go back in. ^_^ Not only that, if, for some reason, you ARE restricted from going back into your body, just think of your feet. Don't know why it works, but every book I've ever read on the subject says the same thing if it says anything at all about it ^_^.
2.) OBEs are the general term for leaving the body. Astral projection is going to the astral plane (obviously), while, contrary to what the other posters have said, moving to a copy of the physical plane is called etheric projection. And yes, looking around your room is considered EP.
3.) It's theoretically possible to make yourself physically visible and/or viable (able to affect physical objects) while out of your body. You'd have to be at an exceptionally low vibrational level to be visible, and to affect physical objects, you'd have to absorb a good deal of physical/etheric energy--what Robert Bruce terms "ether" and some other people call "ectoplasm" (I prefer ether simply because "ectoplasm" sounds like a bad scifi theme). That's why ghosts tend to appear at seances, and weird stuff happens at some religious events--people in these types of states generate a good deal of this energy.

[leanne07]

darin said:

And yes, looking around your room is considered EP.

Do you mean OBE??
I'm not being sarcastic by the way, I'm generally confused.

Your reply was very helpful and you've given me more info on something else I've been wondering too, so I've given you a Karma.

Thank you very much!






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[raiden]

leanne07 said:

darin said:

And yes, looking around your room is considered EP.

Do you mean OBE??
I'm not being sarcastic by the way, I'm generally confused.

Your reply was very helpful and you've given me more info on something else I've been wondering too, so I've given you a Karma.

Thank you very much!






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The EP is the same etheric projection that he spoke of earlier in his post. If you are a bit confused let me try to put it in a way that might help explain.

OBE is a an acronym for Out of Body Experience. This is the top of the hierarchy.

EP(Etheric projection) and AP(Astral Projection) are both types of OBEs because both are experiences that are out of the body.

The difference between the two is that the "Energy" of the Etheric plan vibrates much closer to the vibrations of the physical compared to the Astral. This means that there is some properties of the physical that is shared between both the physical and Etheric plan.(example, seeing your house and/or people)

[lonewolf]

one also should mention about the silver and golden cords.
most humans who are at base level will have a silver cord, this is attached to you and your projected self at all times. its the one thing stopping anything entering your body and the one thing that allows you to find your body once you have finished projecting. the easyest way to get back to your body is to just open your physical eyes, or move your body so that your focus is back on your physical body and not the astral or mental self.

the golden cord is a much higher vibration, its given to those who prove themselves to god. the silver cord is cut and the new higher vibrational golden cord is attacked. this cord does not connect from you to your projected self. It allowed much more flexablity and controll over the projections. it also helps the person do multiple projections at once.

it feels much lighter also, and it makes instant projecting an easy task!

just think of the golden cord like a wireless router, it still gives you your connection but there is no cords attached.

your friend
lonewolf

[slavik101]

one also should mention about the silver and golden cords.
most humans who are at base level will have a silver cord, this is attached to you and your projected self at all times. its the one thing stopping anything entering your body and the one thing that allows you to find your body once you have finished projecting. the easyest way to get back to your body is to just open your physical eyes, or move your body so that your focus is back on your physical body and not the astral or mental self.

the golden cord is a much higher vibration, its given to those who prove themselves to god. the silver cord is cut and the new higher vibrational golden cord is attacked. this cord does not connect from you to your projected self. It allowed much more flexablity and controll over the projections. it also helps the person do multiple projections at once.

it feels much lighter also, and it makes instant projecting an easy task!

just think of the golden cord like a wireless router, it still gives you your connection but there is no cords attached.

your friend
lonewolf

man thats like... whoa ok...

ok new perspective on the silver cord

[bigdognick6]

God?

what of those who have gone to atheism??

[psyked]

god can mean
-higher self
-universe
-anything you want even yourself

[bigdognick6]

hmmmmmm that kind of opinion wouldnt make the christians happy

[Darin Rosewood]

We aren't here to please everyone. ^_^

[raguel]

Eh, to add to this... Yah I have made myself visable to others when astra-projecting. Not something I control, but I have enough people come up and hit me that knew I was learning to control it saying "If you ever scare the BEEEP out of me like that again when I am trying to sleep..."

One of my friends has done it back to me. She is a bit more skilled in the whole control of location factor.

What is odd is I only recall fragments of seeing the other people normally. A few times I had full recall. Hard to transfer all the memories back to the conscious body I guess.... Still working on this one...