Religion

[brandonslau]

Yes someone was bound to bring it up..anyway.Who came up with religion?who wrote the bible?How do we know all the events described in the bible actually happened?Was there really an adam and eve?Is Paganism wrong?I dont think anyone can answer these questions.Which are all about a religion.but why does religion matter,face it, in the USA 99% of the inhabbited land (citys)is practically a bible belt.So why have people judged different religions other than christianity and people who believe in them.isnt the christian religion about loving your neighbor as you would love your self or wanted to be treated.So why has there been fighting about religion and mistreating of people because you are one specific religion,i.e the jewish and the muslims, christians and pagans/wiccans. (in case you dont know what i.e means, it means for instance or for an example.) Do people feel threatened by others because of differences or do they just discriminate because of differences?

[Dumplins]

Yeah I really don't talk about religion cause a lot of conflict and all and.No I'm not scared and maybe they know the events cause when the people seen what happen they wrote it down.

[ooonmmm]

I think religion should be a guide line to wards how you live your life. people shouldn't be worshiping a bible and memorizing pages out of it they should be trying to learn from the lesions and look at the big picture. Also i think that people turn to religion as a way of explaining unknown things. for example some people would say that Psionic work is the way of the devil because they are too ignorant to accept that it is real and they are scared because they dont know what it is.

[Rippy]

First of all. To me, the bible= fiction. I won't even get into that discussion at the moment, it makes it hard for me to hold my tongue..

It isn't religion that counts, truly. It's spirituality, personality, mindset. Religion is just a title scribbled onto a disposable name tag. What matters is what's behind the name. Behind the books, the rules, the threats of Hell or desire for Heaven. It's the person that counts. I don't agree with religion in general. The only thing religion sparks is simplistic black-and-white mindsets.

And why do those who claim to devote their life to 'righteous' ways still discriminate? Obviously, most of humans are hypocrites. From the Atheists to the Muslims to the Christians...

*Stops herself before she begins to rant.*

[kleenex]

I know ive spammed it a lot, but the movie Zeitgeist tells a LOT about religion...I'll give you all a little snippit.

Basically, almost if not all religions are based on one another, which are based on the zodiac and old age sun worship. The two biggest examples mentioned were, for one;

Take a look at Horus from Egyptian mythology, just some facts on him.

Born: December 25th 3000BC (estimated)
Born of a virgin, a star in the east proclaimed his birth, adorned by 3 kings at his birth, began teaching at 12 yrs old, was baptized and began ministry at 30, had 12 disciples, performed various miracles during his ministry, was commonly to referred to as "The Light", "Lamb of God", ect. He was crucified, then resurrected 3 days later.

To the christians, this sound familiar?

How about the god Attis from Grecian mythology?

Born; Dec. 25th 1200BC (estimated)
Born of a virgin, crucified, resurrected 3 days later.

Heres another, Krishna from India.

Born of a virgin, 900BC (estimated), birth proclaimed with a star in the east
Performed miracles during ministry, and was resurrected.

Another one from Greece, Dionysus.

Born Dec. 25th 500BC (estimated), born of a virgin, performed various miracles during ministry,
was commonly referred to "King of kings", "The alpha and omega", Was crucified and later resurrected.

There is an entire PAGE of just names of gods from different religions around the world that share these traits, before and after christianity. However, please dont think I am saying that all these religions are blatant lies simply because they all match up, because in many there are cryptic truths. A perfect example, take a text from the bible, jesus answering his disciples after the asked him when the next passover will be (this is after jesus told them about his coming death.

Luke 22:10; Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you bearing a pitcher of water... Follow him into the house where he entereth in.

An age is 2150 years, there are 12 ages, the next age is Aquarius, we will go into this age on the year 2150, hence this age started on 1ad. The constellation aquarius depicts a man pouring water from a pitcher. If you wanna know about religion, check the link in my sig.

[ljboy585]

Religion is a belief built on an idea, but maybe no one has it right it just matter to have faith. And some scripture changed to help identify with familiar stories.

[Brilenus]

My view is that religion is a nice thing for simple people to hide behind. We are so tiny, so insignificant, and many cannot accept that.

The only "religion" that I really respect is Buddhism.

Spirituality is fine, but religion never fails to cause problems.

[T_Hornberger]

Well this is the debate board, so I will honestly say how I feel about this.

I think that religion is stupid. People in my opinion should just live life and be happy. All religion does is start arguments and fights. I personally don't really have a religion I live life, and enjoy it. I do believe in karma though, but that's something completely different. I don't think that people can understand, some things are unexplainable, and will always be that way. yeah it would be cool to know how people came to exist, but your not going to die if you don't know how it happened. People don't need to make up excuses for that stuff that they aren't sure of. To me, all religion is, is a way for us to explain the unexplainable. I don't need to know that stuff, therefore I don't need a religion, and I'm fine with that.
(Sorry if this sounded like a rant or really long)

[kleenex]

Something on christianity especially, my mum works as a data analyst recording names of new businesses around the country... each business has a certain category such as, retail, marketing, ect.

Christian churches are literally defined as retail businesses. This categorization is from the government mind you

[Cronus]

I don't know if you have noticed or not, but there have been no religious people arguing you on this one and my guess is because they are afraid you will bash them about it. Religion is a private and personal decision people can make for them selves. It is up to each person to make up their own minds to what they will lay their beliefs in, me as a Christian decided to take up Christianity on my own. My parents aren't Christians and that's fine because no one can force any one into a religion. Religion is a sticky topic to debate because of the simple factor, it is personal and each and every person has their own free will to decide what religion suits them, if any. Religious debates cause fights, their have been countless religious wars due to everyones personal beliefs. By religious war I do not only mean war on the large scale, but war as any conflict big or small.
People believe their religion or beliefs are right and everyone else's is wrong, their are some things in Christianity that I as one do not agree with. People need to approach other's beliefs with an open mind. I have leaned not to criticize other peoples beliefs and opinions and have rather decided to listen and learn. You should try it to.
The bottom line is, you should steer away from religion as a debate topic.(along with abortion, because that just gets personal)

~..Mind~Crush..

ps. may be cheesey but bare with me.

[brandonslau]

Actually mind crush the its personal thing really wasnt a reply to my topic.its not so personal tese days if i go up to a person i dont eve know, on the street or school whatever and say hey are you a catholic,muslim,jehovah witness etc. they would most likely reply yes or no, not its personal.i think you saying its personal and it shouldnt be a debate topic made no sense at all.we are debating if you think it will cause fights well..what is a debate, pretty much one just no swear words or threats wont occur,i dont think anyone will be stupid enough to break the rules if they know how valueable this site can be.

[Cronus]

A debate is actually a controlled formal and controlled argument, not fight. Also you never gave much of a clear topic. Debates have topics that are a yes, no scenario, you give your yes or no and say why, giving logical and accountable reasons. The problem lies with your topic.

brandonslau said:

on the street or school whatever and say hey are you a catholic,muslim,jehovah witness etc. they would most likely reply yes or no, not its personal

By saying it is personal, I did not mean no body is allowed to tell there religions, I meant it is not right to force your religion on others. I think my pot made all the sense I needed it to, thank you very much. maybe you should attempt reading it over.

[brandonslau]

flamingwind said:

A debate is acually a controlled formal and controlled arguement, not fight. Also you never gave much of a clear topic. Debates have topics that are a yes, no cenario, you give your yes or no and say why, giving logical and accountable reasons. The problem lies with your topic.

obviously i didnt mean a fist fight an arguement as you said.and there a many question up there for you to state your opinion on and topics i listed on the first post thank you.

[Cronus]

Thats not a debate topic is it, that is a questionnaire.

[Havik]

Hmm, Getting a little off topic I see. Well to throw us back on topic, I agree with what your saying ..Mind~Crush..