Chi, Ki and Psi

[Cronus]

There are a couple of differences. thepsiworld.proboards37.com/index.cgi?board=othr&action=display&thread=1185597011
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[neopsychic]

I still think it is the same. The properties of each sound about the same and the description of each, though I've only heard a few, could be thought of as the same.

[Fearn]

daevl said:

This doesn't show that the energies differ, just the way that the corresponding cultures use the same energy.

That is kind of what I meant by my post. They still use energy, it's just that they access it in a different way, and because of this, they feel different. So like you said in your first post,

daevl said:

"i used chi and it felted diffrent to psi"

this is because they are accessed differently. They are using different visualizations, and in some cases the Chi/Ki users think that they are using something other than energy.

[Mr.Experiment]

I believe there is a difference.
I dont have data to prove this, but do you have data to prove your own argument?

I just believe
Psi - Mental Energy
Chi/Ki - Physical Energy

There was a point where I Thought they were the same, in some ways they are the same it is just the way they are harnesed that seems to vary.

~Jano

[Mr.Experiment]

Yes, I have no written proof, but not many things do.

I do not believe there exactly the same, nor exactly different.

~Jano

[Brilenus]

Personally, I agree with Daevltimi on this one. I have found that in the end, all energy is just different forms of the same base. It is like water, coolaid, tea. All are the same, yet all are different. If you look deep enough into any of them, you will see that they are all water.

Thus, just as those three are alike, all forms of energy are alike. Some may act different than others, but in the end they are all the same.

[Darin Rosewood]

Do you use physical exercises to build up psi? Is psi generated by moving it along energy pathways in your body? Do you need muscle control, occasionally combined with a physical action, to release psi? No. Psi is an external force not normally present in the body unless drawn there, and it is/can be controlled by the mind alone. However, with chi, the exact opposite holds true. Therefore, they are different.

[xpwarrior3]

kagexcore said:

I believe there is a difference.
I dont have data to prove this, but do you have data to prove your own argument?

I just believe
Psi - Mental Energy
Chi/Ki - Physical Energy

There was a point where I Thought they were the same, in some ways they are the same it is just the way they are harnesed that seems to vary.

~Jano

This is something I completely agree with. I believe that they have the same base... energy of some kind, but I do not believe that both are the same energies. There was a video on the effects of Life Force energy (Chi/Ki/Qi) for healing. In the video the energy alone had effects on the environment. The individual channeling the energy didn't necessarily have to think of anything to get the effect except channel the energy. Chi/Ki/Qi, do seem to have physical properties. If I can find the video I would post up a link to it. In the mean time, I'll search for it.

Also, I for one have not seen an instance where psi has physical properties.

Darin Rosewood, there isn't any evidence to support you saying that psi is not normally found in the body, there is also no evidence to support that it is in the body. For now, we know little about the true aspects of psi the energy. What we're familiar with is the phenomenon.

[leethal]

I think the difference between Psi and Ki is just the way you release the energy. If you use your body training to enhance that ability or do you practice it mentally. I think in the end it has not much difference.

[neopsychic]

I think it is the same thing. Working out is supposed to help out with energy working of all sorts. From my own experience in Tai Chi, I've felt a large increase in my ability to use psi even though the instructor in the DVD calls it chi. I remember going to some psionic community much like psiworld and to get the first feel of psi the psion would have to first squeeze their hand into a fist. Then they would flex the muscles as if they did, kind of like a twitching motion. This was supposed to get the person able to feel some quickly built up psi. It might be just some side effects of movement and nerves though.

[xpwarrior3]

I found the video that I was talking about. Here is the YouTube Link. youtube.com/watch?v=T6UTGkC73GE

[leethal]

and just to be the skeptic, how do i know it's for real? But eh, I saw a man burn a newspaper once on youtube too.

[GEOvanne]

they are all the same energy

chi, qi, ki, psi.... all of them, just i different languages

if the chinese word for the energy is chi, would you expect the western world to come up with the same name?
a perro in spain is still a dog in england

[stolide]

Good point. However, I beleive more along the lines (at least with chi/ki/psi) that they are accessed and manipulated in different ways, which makes them seem different (at least at a glance)

If you notice in my log ( thepsiworld.proboards37.com/index.cgi?board=logs&action=display&thread=1191373178 ) that I am trying to make a fairly comprehensive list of energies, how they are accesesd(or visualized) and what they are good for. If anyone would like to help please do.

Part of the reason they are accessed and visualized differently is because they were practiced by entirely different cultures. (eastern/western culture) This culture difference lead to different ways of thinking about everything. From art to combat to science. Everything was influenced by that cultures way of thinking.

So while they may be the same on a basic level they are like food. Pizza and lasanga and spaghetti are made of almost the same ingrediants. However they each have there own taste. These however are all from the same culture. The differences of food(and energy manipulation/relegion) are much greater from different cultures.

(I love comparing life to food ;D YUUUUMM!)

[Fearn]

stolide said:

Good point. However, I beleive more along the lines (at least with chi/ki/psi) that they are accessed and manipulated in different ways, which makes them seem different (at least at a glance)

If you notice in my log ( thepsiworld.proboards37.com/index.cgi?board=logs&action=display&thread=1191373178 ) that I am trying to make a fairly comprehensive list of energies, how they are accesesd(or visualized) and what they are good for. If anyone would like to help please do.

Part of the reason they are accessed and visualized differently is because they were practiced by entirely different cultures. (eastern/western culture) This culture difference lead to different ways of thinking about everything. From art to combat to science. Everything was influenced by that cultures way of thinking.

So while they may be the same on a basic level they are like food. Pizza and lasanga and spaghetti are made of almost the same ingrediants. However they each have there own taste. These however are all from the same culture. The differences of food(and energy manipulation/relegion) are much greater from different cultures.

(I love comparing life to food ;D YUUUUMM!)

Darn you! You stole my analogy. I agree with stolide.

The only thing is the qi, chi, and ki are all the same energy. The reason they have different names is because it is hard for westerners to change their characters in to latin letters.

Gung hay faht choi; goong hai fat choy; gung haoy fat chaoy Are all pronounced the same and all mean 'Happy Chinese new year' but they are spelt differently.