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Post by Brilenus on Nov 28, 2007 15:09:16 GMT -5
That is one of the many possible methods. I would prefer that people not discuss them though, as many people I know would LOVE to put them to the test. A few might even have the power required...
I would rather that the chance not be taken, thus why I did not mention how it is possible.
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Post by neopsychic on Nov 28, 2007 19:04:47 GMT -5
Oh yeah that one russian woman. She nearly had a heart attack every time she moved something. Pretty messed up way to use PK. If she attacked anyone with it I would think she would pass out before doing much serious harm.
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Post by brandonslau on Dec 3, 2007 16:01:43 GMT -5
I wrote a little bit about this on my site, but here's what I think. Why train one's life to be able to kill people with psi. At first it doesn't sound good, but when you get the the possibilities of what you could do with this power, then you could do some real good. Just imagine rewriting the world into something else. Killing criminals, vicious politicians, and hate groups across the world. Imagine being able to stop entire wars with a few psiballs. Why not do something like this? It's the perfect crime. What jury and/or judge in their right mind, put some one in jail if all the evidence they could come up with was names on a list. The weapon of choice remains invisible to most people, and fast but also accurate. The question is, why not? I can see the war thing. But people will take it to the extreme sometimes, think about what you are saying you have the power over another human being,animal etc. life Emotions could over power your mind and you could kill someone just by you being mad at them then when you feel bad in the end you will have to live with that the rest of your life.
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Post by spilledchemicals on Dec 8, 2007 2:40:58 GMT -5
But Brilenus, If someone had the power to kill people instantly, wouldn't they also have the power to make anyone tied to that person forget that they existed, thus ending the saddness? Besides, shields always have a weakness, couldn't you send the psiball into a plane so unremotely attached to this reality that the shield would be practically useless, then phase back in to this reality inside the shield? Now, I am still opposed to the idea of murduring with psi because you're using energy to stop energy in the form of life. Which is all a big waste of energy when you could do the simple techniques you described. But theres always a way to get past anything.
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Post by Brilenus on Dec 8, 2007 14:18:58 GMT -5
Altering memories is not the same as altering life. Just as telekinesis is not the same as telepathy. And shields do not always have a weakness, just weaker points and stronger points. Additionally, psiballs are harmless anyway. You can phase things past many shields, but a well made one will block phased objects just as well as non-phased ones.
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Post by The Adfeng on Dec 8, 2007 16:35:51 GMT -5
Altering memories is not the same as altering life. Just as telekinesis is not the same as telepathy. And shields do not always have a weakness, just weaker points and stronger points. Additionally, psiballs are harmless anyway. You can phase things past many shields, but a well made one will block phased objects just as well as non-phased ones. That is true. But, as for killing with psi, I don't think it's possible. Well, it could be if someone tried very hard, but as for anything else I don't think so.
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Post by Brilenus on Dec 8, 2007 16:38:23 GMT -5
MBSD, it is quite possible. I know of sixteen different methods that I am 98% certain would work. I have the strength to do eight of them, though I have no desire to ever try and see if they work. The only way I would ever try using them would be if someone stabbed me or shot me and I knew I was going to die. I wouldn't mind trying to make the person who killed me die with me. Other than that, I doubt anything could ever cause me to try any of the methods I know that might work.
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Post by The Adfeng on Dec 8, 2007 18:23:58 GMT -5
Ah. I don't doubt I couldn't kill someone, but I'm not for certain either. I wouldn't kill UNLESS someone was going to kill me. Basic self defense. Also, the way you put that was quite nice. Good luck if you can ever try to get it to work. I would like to know how it goes, if you don't mind. But that's up to you.
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Post by GEOvanne on Dec 8, 2007 19:01:56 GMT -5
killing wiht psi is just as bad as doing it with something else. only difference is your less likley to get caught.
i can do it, i call it "death wish" i used to kill my fish with it. didnt really know it was possible till i learned about psi. i dont do it anymore
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Post by Barriss Offee on Dec 15, 2007 22:30:33 GMT -5
This is an interesting argument that has been going on since the start of civilization & has now, apparently, progressed to psionics. My point is this: If you're going to kill someone, no matter how you do it (like with psi), no matter who you kill (even if they're a criminal), then suddenly you have become at least as bad, if not worse, as the criminal him/herself!
You will be doing much less good by trying to kill all the killers then if you, say, formed a construct that would trigger whenever these people attempted to murder someone (or steal, or some other crime) and somehow persuade them not to do it.
In short, I completely disagree with the idea that "killing people with psi is okay". Killing someone with psi is no different than using a gun or a knife, or poisoning them, or throwing them off a bridge, or ... the list goes on and on. You're not just killing someone --- you're not just extinguishing their life, their hope, their endless possibilites in this world --- but you are also, in a sense, killing yourself.
I know that last bit was a little confusing. The point is, I believe that killing with psi, or killing in any way, is completely wrong. I would never condone it.
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Post by Shariadarow on Dec 15, 2007 22:44:16 GMT -5
If killing is such an immoral thing, and by existing comfortably humans kill most other living things, what gives us the right to that? If one species had to be killed to allow all others to live, it may be immoral, yes, but how can that be a truly evil goal? True, people can change, but a species as a whole cannot change so easily. The fact remains that there are already too many of us on this world. As many put it, we are going to likely blow ourselves up anyway, why not get it over with without harming everything else around us?
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Post by lilmoe15 on Dec 16, 2007 3:05:43 GMT -5
Altering memories is not the same as altering life. Just as telekinesis is not the same as telepathy. And shields do not always have a weakness, just weaker points and stronger points. Additionally, psiballs are harmless anyway. You can phase things past many shields, but a well made one will block phased objects just as well as non-phased ones. That is true. But, as for killing with psi, I don't think it's possible. Well, it could be if someone tried very hard, but as for anything else I don't think so. Its very easy to use ________ to kill someone if you have that ability.
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Post by The Adfeng on Dec 16, 2007 3:42:28 GMT -5
I bet it is very easy to use ________ to but I can't get it or manipulate it. I don't feel like having _______ taken out of my _______ to make it. Not fun. And let's not fill in these blanks.
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Post by Barriss Offee on Dec 16, 2007 18:14:58 GMT -5
Shariadarow, I completely disagree with your argument. You say that if we had to exterminate an entire species for the continuation of ours, then it would be okay ... that's directly related to the "killing-a-killer-so-they-won't-kill-any-more-people" philosophy. I mean, if you kill a killer, you're taking one out of the world, but you won't really be helping the world at all because you've also just added another killer ... yourself!
I don't care if you say "Oh, I have good judgement, I would just kill the people who really deserved it" or anything like that. First of all, who really DESERVES to be murdered? Second of all, once you've realized that you can kill someone with psi (or any other method for that matter), I guarantee that it will take over your thoughts, and that you really won't be able to stop. It's like an addiction --- you don't even really realize that it's there, but it is.
As I said in my last post, I will never condone killing...
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Post by Shariadarow on Dec 16, 2007 18:22:25 GMT -5
I'm saying that we are exterminating other species simply by living as we do. If humans didn't exist in the first place, there would be far less problems in this world. Since a species as a whole can't change, only the individuals can, and we are going to destroy ourselves, it is far more logical to eliminate our own species as quickly and cleanly as possible, without harming everything else around us. Consider this, There is a virus, one that is killing everything else. Is it better to stand by and allow it to kill everything until it runs out of hosts and dies off, or to try and destroy it beforehand? Killing is not an easy thing, but at times it's necassary. I don't condone it either, but sometimes, one species must die, so that all others may live, and in this case, it's humans. I don't mean certain ones, I mean all.
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